• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    This is one of the US’s partners in the war:

    America loves Nazis, whether they’re Ukrainian Neonazis or Zionazis.

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        3 months ago

        Fascists are nationalists. Fascists from different nations fighting each other isn’t really infighting, that’s just like, regular fighting.

        Not something we should be fueling at any rate. Heaven forbid anyone asks about a peace plan that isn’t total victory, though.

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          Yeah it’s tough to find a compromise when Russia seems to go for the total victory or at least a settlement of gains and Ukraine hopes for a stalemate without border changes.

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            3 months ago

            Russia has literally never intended to take and hold the whole of Ukraine. USA military intelligence has stated that this has been true since the beginning of the SMO. Your understanding of the world is inaccurate.

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              I wasn’t the one bringing up total victory. I don’t know what level of invasion is their true intention, nor claim to know.

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                You deliberately misinterpreted the person who brought up total victory. The side insisting on total victory is Ukraine and the West. They are insisting that negotiations for peace can only occur after Russia is fully defeated and pushed out of Ukrainian territory. Some have gone so far as to say negotiations won’t start until Ukraine pushes Russia out of Crimea.

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                  That’s a big leap you have there. It’s not wise to assume alternate intentions to what I wrote as such an evaluation is not accurate. I don’t think Ukraine is attempting to reach Moscow for a total victory and I’d never make such a claim either.

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                    3 months ago

                    Ok troll. You assumed the total victory spoken of by the commenter to whom you were replying was being attributed to Russia when it was actually being applied to Ukraine. Total victory for Ukraine would be a full and complete repulsion of the Russian, not an invasion of Russia.

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            3 months ago

            Ukraine hopes for total retreat from all claimed Ukrainian territory, not a mere stalemate. That’s hardly compromise.