• afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Guns do not belong in the list. Guns are weapons, not tools. Don’t bother posting some random edge case that accounts for approximately 0.000001% of use. This is a basic category error.

    Governments should make rules banning and/or regulating weapons.

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      5 months ago

      Weapons are tools, by strict definition, and there are legitimate uses for them. Besides, my point was that they should be regulated. In fact, because they are less generally useful than constructive tools, they should be regulated far MORE strictly.

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        5 months ago

        Weapons are tools,

        Prove it. Prove that the majority of people think of a gun in the same way as they do a screwdriver

        by strict definition,

        Assertion without evidence

        and there are legitimate uses for them.

        I see we didn’t read what I wrote, only the first sentence of what I wrote.

        Besides, my point was that they should be regulated. In fact, because they are less generally useful than constructive tools, they should be regulated far MORE strictly.

        By generally you mean not even close to them yes.

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          5 months ago

          It seems we can’t have a reasonable discourse here because you are ignoring basic definitions. Have a lovely day!

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            5 months ago

            No you are pulling a libertarian. You defined a word that is used a particular way to mean what you want it to mean then declare victory.

            You are not arguing step-by-step, you are bypassing.

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              5 months ago

              Mate, he’s right. First definition. “A handheld device used to aid in performing a task.” Any gun falls into that definition. But sure, get hung up on asking them to define every word in their statements, that’s a good way to not have to actually engage with the concept.

              • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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                5 months ago

                Task =\= murder

                When I hire a task rabbit is that the same as hiring a hitman? When I open task manager should I see process “kill my cheating ex”?

                But sure, get hung up on asking them to define every word in their statements, t

                Did I do that? Yes or no question.

                that’s a good way to not have to actually engage with the concept.

                I am fine with engaging with the topic, I did so. He/she clung to definitions while I was blunt and pointed out that a gun is not a screwdriver and should be banned or regulated just like we do with any weapon.

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                    5 months ago

                    It was always a definition argument. Oh and that wasn’t actually ironic just thought you would like to know.

                    Now instead of trying to score rhetorical points why don’t you answer literally any of the questions I asked in the previous comment. I know it’s vital to defend your BFF Rittenhouse but you don’t do a good job defending him when you don’t actually engage with what is being presented.