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      There was a zero percent chance that some random person with a rifle was able to scale a roof, unless there was just an unbelievable failure of intelligence. And you want to know why it’s unbelievable? Because I don’t effing believe it. I don’t believe it. I want the names of the Secret Service agents that allowed this remarkable security failure to go down, because I don’t believe this.

      The “school” of hard knocks strikes again. She is still on the same bullshit. Obviously the secret service wanted this to happen, or something 🙄

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        Also, it was an “unbelievable failure of intelligence” - which amusingly could be the name of her autobiography. Turns out the sniper apparently was confronted by a police officer in the minutes before firing, but the cop decided that discretion was the better part of valor and let the sniper get on with his business.

        According to the AP, who spoke to two law enforcement officials on condition of anonymity, rallygoers noticed a man climbing to the top of the roof of the nearby building and warned local law enforcement.

        This is when one local officer climbed to the roof and confronted Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder as Crooks quickly took a shot toward Trump who was speaking on stage and that’s when the U.S. Secret Service counter-snipers shot him, the AP reported.

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        It’s 0% empathy again.

        They can’t put themselves in someone else’s shoes.

        Like, the sniper even saw the shooter, realizes it’s an actual shooter, and pops his head up from his scope to look at him seconds before the first shot.

        There is a delay for humans where your brain has to think “is this really fucking happening”?

        trump has done an insane amount of these things. And there’s never been a shooter. So when one finally shows up, people don’t just immediately shoot. By the time they realized what’s actually going on, shit was too late.

        She’s looking at it with the knowledge afterwards that someone is actually going to do it. And not if they have to be sure before they shoot someone. trump rallies are full of idiots climbing on shit and being idiots.

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          She’s looking at it with the knowledge afterwards that someone is actually going to do it. And not if they have to be sure before they shoot someone. trump rallies are full of idiots climbing on shit and being idiots.

          Exactly this. It’s really easy to look at the situation afterwards and have trouble believing how it could have gotten that far. But that’s because from the outside we don’t know how many incidents they have narrowly avoided or how many potential incidents turned out to be nothing.

          This is also classic conspiracy theory territory. Could it be that the world is complex and scary? That even trained secret service agents make potentially fatal errors? No, because we can pretend that even though there was a shooter it was all planned and under control. Somehow the idea that things like this are under the control of some malicious enemy is more comforting than the horrible unpredictability of it all in reality.

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    It’s just asinine to think civilians pointing out “guy with rifle” is supposed to be a call to action for law enforcement when there are “guys with rifles” at every such event as part of the secret service protection package.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Shortly after the shooting, witness Greg Smith told the BBC that he spotted a man with a rifle crawling on a rooftop near the rally venue minutes before shots were fired.

    Smith went on to describe a scene of chaos and apparent lack of coordination among security personnel as he attempted to warn them of imminent danger.

    After watching a clip of the interview on a live special of her podcast, conservative commentator Owens expressed her astonishment as she remarked: "You have got to be kidding me.

    Owens, who has expressed her intention to vote for Trump in November’s election, stated that it is protocol for the Secret Service to surveil an area “days before” a president would make an appearance anywhere.

    Amid questions about security decisions in the moments before the assassination attempt, Anthony Guglielmi, who is chief of communications at the Secret Service, took to X, formerly Twitter, on July 14 to share a statement.

    Since the shooting, Trump has traveled to Milwaukee for this week’s Republican National Convention, where he will be formally nominated as the party’s presidential candidate.


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