Firefox has absolutely destroyed the battery of most mobile devices I’ve tried it with. Any ideas on fixes to get it at least to parity with chrome? In-use power metrics seem fine, but if I let it sit Chrome will allow the system to go into low power/sleep while firefox tends to just keep things running somehow? (Not sure why there’s down votes here… I use Firefox by default whenever I’m on desktop and this is a real issue I experience on my mobile systems (M1 pro mac, Intel/Windows laptop, M1 iPad pro, and amd/Linux (steamdeck)). I’m also genuinely interested in solution recommendations… Like I get you love Mozilla and firefox, I do too, but I can’t substitute one for the other when it causes a significant shift in my device use paradigm.) (For the continued down votes, 1. You’re the reason people don’t want to use software you like 2. I’ve tested this on my machines and it’s very real, only occurring when firefox is running and not related to system settings).
I use FF as my primary browser on my desktop, laptop, and mobile devices.
As much as I love and support FF and the Mozilla Foundation, I find that some websites simply need a Chromium-based browser to function properly. It’s frustrating as hell.
I wonder how many people tried FF, had their favourite site stop working, and then switched back to Chrome.
Look, I’m a Linux user, and I prefer to use Free apps. However, the truth must be told: Firefox is not as optimized as Chrome. On older devices, Chrome is twice as fast in youtube playback, and it uses way less RAM overall. Chrome is the better browser in terms of architecture, at least for older PCs (and I have a whole bunch of them). On my main PC, running Debian-Testing, which is a newer PC, I do use Firefox, because it can handle stuff ok with enough CPU power. But for all my older PCs (anywhere from 5 to 15 years old), I have to use Chrome.
Now, if you find me a de-googled, Free, WELL-MAINTANED Chromium browser, I rather use that than Chrome. No, Brave, etc don’t cut it. I want a community-driven, well maintained Chromium browser. Currently, all de-googled versions are not well maintained, or not available as native packages on Debian.
EDIT: So, downvoted, huh? By fellow open source users who don’t want to hear the truth?
Google has a history of sabotaging Firefox in YouTube, because they can. This is a YouTube problem more than a Firefox problem. I know that’s not really helpful for you as an end user, but I want to mention it because really, Google deserves the blame.
I can’t downvote you from my instance, but you do realise it’s been pretty well-known, for at least a decade in certain circles, that YouTube specifically slows down on Firefox? I’m pretty sure you can test this yourself by changing user agents. So that hardly seems like a fair test of a browser’s speed.
the truth must be told: Firefox is not as optimized as Chrome
what are you talking about? my desktop pc is amd fx4300. definition of old and subpar - https://i.imgur.com/WBm5Ub1.png - and i have 313 open tabs right now.
granted, that is slightly more affected by memory, before i updated from 8 to 32 gb recently, it was admittedly slightly more sluggish.
but at the same time normal people don’t really have 300 open tabs at once and also you have to ask what is the threshold where you are willing to sacrifice your privacy for slight speed increase.
do you have some numbers to support that speed difference, or is it just your feeling, or anecdote that is being passed around and everyone repeats it and everyone believes it, because everyone says so?
So, downvoted, huh? By fellow open source users who don’t want to hear the truth?
The truth is that you might have experienced this, but this might not reflect the average user’s experience. My older ThinkPad feels no difference in better life based on the web browser.
what i don’t get is all the people complaining about google and at the same time using their browser…
i believe that trying to steer masses away from chrome would be more useful in the long run than trying to make it work
Just use Firefox
Firefox has absolutely destroyed the battery of most mobile devices I’ve tried it with. Any ideas on fixes to get it at least to parity with chrome? In-use power metrics seem fine, but if I let it sit Chrome will allow the system to go into low power/sleep while firefox tends to just keep things running somehow? (Not sure why there’s down votes here… I use Firefox by default whenever I’m on desktop and this is a real issue I experience on my mobile systems (M1 pro mac, Intel/Windows laptop, M1 iPad pro, and amd/Linux (steamdeck)). I’m also genuinely interested in solution recommendations… Like I get you love Mozilla and firefox, I do too, but I can’t substitute one for the other when it causes a significant shift in my device use paradigm.) (For the continued down votes, 1. You’re the reason people don’t want to use software you like 2. I’ve tested this on my machines and it’s very real, only occurring when firefox is running and not related to system settings).
I use FF as my primary browser on my desktop, laptop, and mobile devices.
As much as I love and support FF and the Mozilla Foundation, I find that some websites simply need a Chromium-based browser to function properly. It’s frustrating as hell.
I wonder how many people tried FF, had their favourite site stop working, and then switched back to Chrome.
Look, I’m a Linux user, and I prefer to use Free apps. However, the truth must be told: Firefox is not as optimized as Chrome. On older devices, Chrome is twice as fast in youtube playback, and it uses way less RAM overall. Chrome is the better browser in terms of architecture, at least for older PCs (and I have a whole bunch of them). On my main PC, running Debian-Testing, which is a newer PC, I do use Firefox, because it can handle stuff ok with enough CPU power. But for all my older PCs (anywhere from 5 to 15 years old), I have to use Chrome.
Now, if you find me a de-googled, Free, WELL-MAINTANED Chromium browser, I rather use that than Chrome. No, Brave, etc don’t cut it. I want a community-driven, well maintained Chromium browser. Currently, all de-googled versions are not well maintained, or not available as native packages on Debian.
EDIT: So, downvoted, huh? By fellow open source users who don’t want to hear the truth?
Google has a history of sabotaging Firefox in YouTube, because they can. This is a YouTube problem more than a Firefox problem. I know that’s not really helpful for you as an end user, but I want to mention it because really, Google deserves the blame.
I can’t downvote you from my instance, but you do realise it’s been pretty well-known, for at least a decade in certain circles, that YouTube specifically slows down on Firefox? I’m pretty sure you can test this yourself by changing user agents. So that hardly seems like a fair test of a browser’s speed.
what are you talking about? my desktop pc is amd fx4300. definition of old and subpar - https://i.imgur.com/WBm5Ub1.png - and i have 313 open tabs right now.
granted, that is slightly more affected by memory, before i updated from 8 to 32 gb recently, it was admittedly slightly more sluggish.
but at the same time normal people don’t really have 300 open tabs at once and also you have to ask what is the threshold where you are willing to sacrifice your privacy for slight speed increase.
do you have some numbers to support that speed difference, or is it just your feeling, or anecdote that is being passed around and everyone repeats it and everyone believes it, because everyone says so?
The truth is that you might have experienced this, but this might not reflect the average user’s experience. My older ThinkPad feels no difference in better life based on the web browser.