Hey guys,

I am looking for a new email provider as I am still using gmail and like to get that removed finally. I am currently looking at Tuta and proton. I would be using it mainly for email and the Calendar. most other things I am self hosting but email in particular is not something I like to self host.

Proton being hosted in Switzerland and Tuta being hosted from Germany I think Proton has a edge over Tuta in that regard although I am not very familiar with both country’s privacy laws.

Also how do they compare to each other regarding flexibility in creating email filters and folders. I believe proton hat some restrictions on the amount of email filters if i am not mistaken.

And lastly can you get calendar invites with these email providers? If I like the email provider i might move the business email to one of the providers as well but seeing we get like calendar invites which works fine with outlook. I dont know if this works with the email clients of proton or Tuta.

Also if their is a better email provider i am open to suggestions.

EDIT: Thanks guys! Got many great answers. i think I will get my own domain and try them out both for a while.

  • nnullzz@lemmy.world
    2·
    5 months ago

    I switched over to Proton from Gmail about 8-10 months ago and it’s been great so far. Folders and filters have been like what I was used to. The only thing I haven’t played around with much is calendar and invites.

    I ended up going for the whole proton bundle since it included the vpn, storage, and custom domains (up to 10 addresses I think)

  • trickster@infosec.pub
    1·
    5 months ago

    I personally suggest Tuta (and I use it daily) over Proton. Several reasons:

    Proton:

    1. it is leaky in terms of social graph encryption. Sun Knudsen has a great video about it (https://youtu.be/GdDFUycXR_M&t=0)
    2. had this case about the climate activist (https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/6/22659861/protonmail-swiss-court-order-french-climate-activist-arrest-identification). And since they position themselves as a privacy company, this looks disturbing.
    3. I’d prefer a such a privacy oriented company to be more open to anonymous payment methods.

    Overall, Proton seems like a little more privacy-conscious Gmail alternative.

    Tuta

    1. doesn’t use Google/Apple notification servers
    2. encrypts more stuff than Proton

    PS In both cases, emails are not end-to-end encrypted. Even though both are marketed with E2E encryption by default. Again, Sun Knudsen has a great video about the topic (https://youtu.be/G2Jh8bQ2wM8&t=501).

    Also, as far as I remember, Proton is more expensive while having less features (the cheapest option) than Tuta.

  • voracitude@lemmy.world
    1·
    5 months ago

    Proton have just announced they’re moving to a nonprofit structure if that makes a difference to you; it sure does to me.

  • IDew@lemm.ee
    1·
    5 months ago

    Been using Proton for over 4 years now, and have had no issues with it. I don’t use folders or tags that much, but if you are a paid member, you get unlimited of those. They recently announced calander invites (I personally never want to use them) and it looks like it should work fine. Proton also has unlimited aliases to hide your actual address, which I use all the time (coming over from SimpleLogin.)

    The bundle (mail, VPN, calander, pass and drive) is really bang for the buck for what you get, even though you don’t use some of them. You can always upgrade to it later if you wish. And in case you don’t plan on paying, the free versions work just as you expect!

    If you have any questions, just ask!