• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        I’m not being defeatist, I’m being realistic about who to focus on.

        Trying to appeal to a cult member using facts and common sense is a fool’s errand.

        Convincing alienated people on the left to vote by giving them a GOOD choice for once, on the other hand? THAT’S how you beat the fascists!

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          6 months ago

          I don’t think people who want Biden to just get swapped out really quick know how that works. He doesn’t want to drop, he’s come out and said it. They would have to work against the sitting president who has already won primaries. There is real risk there.

          Is Biden great, nah prob not. But he is not in the same league, hell the same sport as Trump when it comes to horrible. Instead of trying to change the world in a few months before the election, I’d take Biden who has actually done good and work on the next candidate from there. When we have years to build them up.

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            6 months ago

            Guy ran essentially unopposed with the media on his side and the big story was how many people literally refused to vote / voted uncommitted rather than vote for him. I don’t understand how people are so tone deaf, Trump literally went to the South Bronx after a court appearance and had the park packed while a Biden Rally down the block was a ghost town. Biden literally squandered the Fuck Trump vote which is honestly the only reason he got elected after failing in his previous five runs at presidency, now he’s got his seat and only god almighty would convince him to step down.

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              6 months ago

              The park was not packed where Trump went, this was disproven already. Trump also has groupies that follow him around the country. Trying to use this as any metric of popularity is silly.

              He didn’t squander the anti Trump at all. People just seem to accept lies and BS from Trump and hold Biden to a much higher, sometimes ridiculous, bar.

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          6 months ago

          Yeah? Who? Who has a better chance than Biden this late into the cycle. Did you just wake up now, or have you been supporting other local candidates years ago?

          Want more progressive candidate? Start local and start early.

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      6 months ago

      Trust me: a whole lot of people are entirely checked out and really do not know just how bad donnie is. Nor do they know about the plans the demons have laid in Project 2025.