• AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    5 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “I have seen these addictive algorithms pull in young people, literally capture them and make them prisoners in a space where they are cut off from human connection, social interaction and normal classroom activity,” she said.

    The smartphone-ban bill will follow two others Hochul is pushing that outline measures to safeguard children’s privacy online and limit their access to certain features of social networks.

    In New York, the bills have faced pushback from big tech, trade groups and other companies, which collectively spent more than $800,000 between October and March lobbying against one or both of them, according to public disclosure records.

    This differs from other state-level bills across the country, which place some reliance on self-policing by tech companies to decide which features could be harmful by completing assessments of whether products are “reasonably likely” to be accessed by children.

    “Meta itself admits its own parental controls aren’t widely used – they’re often confusing and frequently fail to work as intended,” said Sacha Haworth, executive director of the Tech Oversight Project, a policy advocacy organization.

    The major social media firms have faced increasing scrutiny over harms against children, including sextortion scams, grooming by predators and worsening mental health.


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    5 months ago

    Great,I fully support this

    Schools should be places to learn, not to be distracted by continuous alerts from phone addicted children

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      I fully support this as long as they put the pay phones back in the schools so kids can call their parents when they need to

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        5 months ago

        A school shouldn’t make kids pay to call their legal guardian. Make phone calls free.

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          5 months ago

          Either way, there should some way to do it without having to go to the main office and ask to use their phone or something. When I was a kid we had payphones, back when it cost a dime.

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            I’m sorry but just wondering here… Why would you need to phone home up to the point where you can’t be without a phone? I didn’t have phones in my school, never needed them either. A lot of people are acting as if not having phones will kill them where in reality, everyone will be just fine.

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              5 months ago

              Like when my kid is finished with his club after school and it’s raining and he’d like me to pick him up. Or he’s at school and realizes he forgot to take his medication. One time his bike was broken and he couldn’t ride it.

              I’m glad for you that you never once had a need to call home. I congratulate you. Some people do need to, and I just hope they have a way.

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                You do understand that the entire world had those “problems” since forever until just only about 10 years ago or so? It wasn’t a life or death back then, it isn’t now.

                Sure, there are some limited life or death situations where a mobile phone is critical, none of what you describe is.

                Also I was talking about mobile phones in school. They are a deterrent to learning and must go, period. You don’t NEED a mobile phone at school. You take it with you? Put it in your locker.

                Kids having a medical emergency at school don’t need a mobile phone, they need teachers and school employees making sure an ambulance is on the way.

                Its Raining at a club? Well, I drive my bike home and get wet. I’m sorry but that isn’t going to kill you.

                Seriously, whats up with this generation to think that all these new shiny gadgets that they have are critical to life? They’re not. Never were.

                And no, I’m not some anti tech genezer. I grew up with computers, I was almost always ahead of everyone in tech, and now work as a CTO. I simply understand that people get way too worked up about their tech gadgets and moreover, I see the hurt mobile phones do to children, which is far greater than the imagined issues people come upmwith if they were without their phone

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        5 months ago

        Why would even that be necessary? It’s school, not jail or drug den…

        Kids survived fine without phones for millenia, I’m sure they can survive now. If there is a real emergency, then I’m sure some supervisor can make a call…

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            4 months ago

            Nothing.

            Im a normal person who grew up during the time that there were no mobile phones, and we got by just fine. Anyone arguing that its torture or dangerous to remove mobile.phones from school really need to calm down. It literally NEVER was an issue until literally the last 10 years of this worlds existence, you cannot come up with any argument that requires kids to have one.

            I can come up with a shit tonne of arguments why they shouldn’t have one, though

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    I don’t understand how a state governor can “introduce” a bill.

    Isn’t that the legislature’s job?

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      5 months ago

      Anyone can introduce a bill, including you. Only the legislature’s vote on it counts.

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    A lot of public school districts now provide laptops or Chromebooks to the students to use during class while doing… let’s say…minimal oversight at best.

    So most of the same inappropriate garbage behaviors and distractions will just be offloaded from the personal phone to the school device.

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    Ontario has now passed two different bills banning cell phones in school. It’s a great distraction from actual problems. I fully expect we’ll pass a third in a few years if our provincial government is re-elected

    Teachers don’t need a sheet of paper at a legislature somewhere to take away cellphones. They can do that already, and if the kids disobey a legislature won’t help. I assume no one is expecting kids to go to prison for having a cellphone

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      The key thing is that teachers can ban phones in their individual classrooms if the school permits it.

      There are many schools in which the senior admin don’t institute phone bans (you’d be surprised how common this is).

      Legislating it helps maintain consistency and parity between schools nation wide, which is important as it’s a quality of education issue, so the policy should be consistent across all schools.

      I’m not from North America, but the situation is similar across most western democracies.