All of us were always going to vote… Let’s be honest. But that’s not going to be enough. Biden needs millions of young progressives to turn up and vote for him, but to get them to do that, he’s going to need to start meeting them halfway, instead of continuing to meet Republicans/fascists halfway.
Because it couldn’t possibly be that we ALL need to compromise to make this work. Biden, as far as I’m concerned, did in fact meet us at least part way. Not even close to where I’d want but not nothing either. And in doing so probably alienated more conservative voters. So they didn’t get everything they wanted and neither did we. But in the process we all got some of what what we wanted.
If “kids these days” can’t figure out that democracy is fundamentally a compromise in which nobody is 100% happy then truly we’re fucked.
When did megacorps, billionaires and insider trading political dynasties ever have to compromise?
For starters, some random examples would include state minimum wage laws, environmental regulations (e.g. banning drilling in the arctic, banning certain chemicals, etc), and labor protections generally.
You see, when most people think of “compromise”, they think of meeting halfway… When liberals and their corporate owners think of “compromise” they think “I give an inch, you give a mile”
Young people still have some fight in them (and they’re brains are still working on understanding long term consequences), so often times they see their great grandpa pacifying the rich and mostly ignoring them and they think, fuck that, I’d rather fight.
Eh… Bernie got a shit ton of them out fighting for real… They just need a leader to fight for
Oh yes, they did a great job “fighting” by showing up at rallies and make noise. Lot’s of fist shaking going on. But as soon as it came time to show up to vote a fuckload didn’t.
The people Biden needs to turn up, aren’t paying attention. They’re not not showing up because they’re pissed. They’re not going to show up because nothing about politics has caught their attention. They show up when something excites them. Dems know that, but still keep going for the least exciting candidates they can find. That’s on the DNC and Biden.
They’re not going to show up because nothing about politics has caught their attention.
I mean I can somewhat relate. When I don’t get chocolate ice cream and only vanilla is offered I also get pissed and refuse to eat any ice cream at all.
Especially if you were promised ice cream the last 4 times you agreed to come to the party, and once again you’re being told “sorry, all the ice cream is for the Nazis. Best we can do for you is this cone full of dog shit. What do you mean you’re leaving? Don’t you know YOU’LL be the one letting the Nazis win?? How dare you not take this cone of shit and be happy!”
what is shit for you? Is your comfortable home not large enough? Is your TV only 65" instead of 75"? Is your car older than you’d like? Did you have to eat rice and beans more than once a month?
Shit for me is every 4 years being told “just vote for us this time and we’ll fix the election system so this doesn’t keep happening,” and then not even attempting to fix it… But yes all that other stuff too I guess
One is a cult of press-stamped NPCs, the other is a massively varied collection of people that want everything their way or they are taking their ball and going home.
It is a rough position to be in when your party has to cover “everyone that isn’t a conservative”…it’s a huge majority of people to gather up under one umbrella.
Are you easily discouraged? Do you stamp your feet an yell when you don’t get 100% your way, 100% of the time? Or do you recognize that other people exist and have different needs and wants?
It’s a fact that Democrats and progressives don’t show up as consistently to vote as conservatives. It’s just not part of the culture like it is for conservatives.
Trump is a convicted felon and it does not make a difference for his voters. Biden has a bad debate and Democrats are fleeing left and right. That’s how you lose elections.
“…unless something significant happens…”
Yeah, like all of us voting.
All of us were always going to vote… Let’s be honest. But that’s not going to be enough. Biden needs millions of young progressives to turn up and vote for him, but to get them to do that, he’s going to need to start meeting them halfway, instead of continuing to meet Republicans/fascists halfway.
If they choose the vote for trump with more steps by not voting blue, I hold them fully accountable. Sorry.
Because it couldn’t possibly be that we ALL need to compromise to make this work. Biden, as far as I’m concerned, did in fact meet us at least part way. Not even close to where I’d want but not nothing either. And in doing so probably alienated more conservative voters. So they didn’t get everything they wanted and neither did we. But in the process we all got some of what what we wanted.
If “kids these days” can’t figure out that democracy is fundamentally a compromise in which nobody is 100% happy then truly we’re fucked.
When did megacorps, billionaires and insider trading political dynasties ever have to compromise?
For starters, some random examples would include state minimum wage laws, environmental regulations (e.g. banning drilling in the arctic, banning certain chemicals, etc), and labor protections generally.
You see, when most people think of “compromise”, they think of meeting halfway… When liberals and their corporate owners think of “compromise” they think “I give an inch, you give a mile”
Young people still have some fight in them (and they’re brains are still working on understanding long term consequences), so often times they see their great grandpa pacifying the rich and mostly ignoring them and they think, fuck that, I’d rather fight.
Which would be great if “fight” meant “run for office and vote”. But really it means “shake fists angrily and complain online”.
Go ahead folks, downvote me. But you know it’s true and the date supports it.
Eh… Bernie got a shit ton of them out fighting for real… They just need a leader to fight for
Oh yes, they did a great job “fighting” by showing up at rallies and make noise. Lot’s of fist shaking going on. But as soon as it came time to show up to vote a fuckload didn’t.
The people Biden needs to turn up, aren’t paying attention. They’re not not showing up because they’re pissed. They’re not going to show up because nothing about politics has caught their attention. They show up when something excites them. Dems know that, but still keep going for the least exciting candidates they can find. That’s on the DNC and Biden.
I mean I can somewhat relate. When I don’t get chocolate ice cream and only vanilla is offered I also get pissed and refuse to eat any ice cream at all.
Especially if you were promised ice cream the last 4 times you agreed to come to the party, and once again you’re being told “sorry, all the ice cream is for the Nazis. Best we can do for you is this cone full of dog shit. What do you mean you’re leaving? Don’t you know YOU’LL be the one letting the Nazis win?? How dare you not take this cone of shit and be happy!”
what is shit for you? Is your comfortable home not large enough? Is your TV only 65" instead of 75"? Is your car older than you’d like? Did you have to eat rice and beans more than once a month?
Shit for me is every 4 years being told “just vote for us this time and we’ll fix the election system so this doesn’t keep happening,” and then not even attempting to fix it… But yes all that other stuff too I guess
What though? What keeps happening? I’m trying to ask what specifically is so bad for you personally about Democratic Party administrations?
Sure, but Democrats seem very easy to discourage into not voting compared to conservatives.
One is a cult of press-stamped NPCs, the other is a massively varied collection of people that want everything their way or they are taking their ball and going home. It is a rough position to be in when your party has to cover “everyone that isn’t a conservative”…it’s a huge majority of people to gather up under one umbrella.
Are you easily discouraged? Do you stamp your feet an yell when you don’t get 100% your way, 100% of the time? Or do you recognize that other people exist and have different needs and wants?
It’s a fact that Democrats and progressives don’t show up as consistently to vote as conservatives. It’s just not part of the culture like it is for conservatives.
Trump is a convicted felon and it does not make a difference for his voters. Biden has a bad debate and Democrats are fleeing left and right. That’s how you lose elections.
Oh well I guess just don’t bother to vote then since clearly we’re gonna lose
/s