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    2 months ago

    While the online poll showed Harris leading Trump in a popular vote, the popular vote does not decide presidential elections

    The poll does not appear to have anything to say about swing states…

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    I dont want her to be president.

    But she’s the only one the DNC will let run. And she can actually beat Trump in the general.

    Unfortunately Biden and his supporters are willing to let trump win than someone besides Joe. Even though Kamala is going to do all the shitty neo liberal shit they want, and probably pull the same no primary shit in 2028 if she wins this election.

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      I think anyone below the age of 70, with the blessing of the DNC, can win. Trump is a weak candidate who only really appeals to angry dumb people and guys with bags of money.

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        Yep

        Moderates want to act like he’s some great politician that’s unbeatable except for checks notes two of the most unpopular Dem candidates to ever run for president?

        The last 8 years has felt like a mashup of Groundhogs Day and Brewster’s Millions.

        But for whatever reason, at least on here some people seem to have fully fallen for it

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      I’m pessimistic and hope I’m wrong, but I think we might be underestimating the pull of racism/sexism that still exists.

      I feel like if we put Kamala at the top of the ticket, she’d need a really strong and ‘traditional’ running mate. Like, this guys got to be the straightest, whitest and richest guy you’ve ever seen. I kinda feel like they’ve been exploring that with a lot of top democratic people meeting with Biden lately.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A new poll brings bad news for former President Donald Trump, as it suggests Vice President Kamala Harris would have a 2-percentage-point edge over Trump among registered voters if she secured the Democratic presidential nomination.

    Since June 27, following President Joe Biden’s poor debate performance against Trump, pressure has mounted on the incumbent to drop out of the 2024 presidential race, with several congressional Democrats urging him to step aside and allow a different candidate to take the party’s nomination.

    The ABC News/Washington Post/Ipsos poll, released Thursday, surveyed 2,431 adults and found that if Harris were to replace Biden on the Democratic presidential ticket, she would lead Trump in the popular vote: 49 percent to 46 percent among all adults.

    The poll, conducted online between July 5 and 9, has a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points, which could place the candidates in a deadlock.

    Despite the pressure, Biden has repeatedly reaffirmed that he is not dropping out of the race, and no official candidates have been proposed by congressional members, though some are looking to his vice president.

    The Democratic National Convention, where the party is set to officially nominate a candidate, is scheduled to take place in Chicago from August 19 to 22.


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    Woo, she’d barely win the popular vote and lose the electoral college!

    Why don’t we get a real fucking candidate.

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      That’s the problem, isn’t it? Show me your idea of a real candidate and I’ll find you a bunch of Dems who would rather have Harris or stick with Biden.

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    Good thing she’s VP to an ancient already. What’s the angle here? We get her either way dont we?

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      Hey!

      It’s that account that literally just said it has to be Joe because Kamala wasn’t polling ahead of trump even tho she’s not campaigning yet…

      What’s the new reason for why only Joe can be the candidate now?

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            Newsweek sucks and doesn’t even link this new wonderous poll. There’s your reason.

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                So first off:

                As the horse race shows, those views may not be determinative. Biden’s job approval rating is stable, albeit at a weak 36%. Though neither is broadly popular, Biden continues to have a better personal favorability rating than Trump. And Biden leads Trump by 17 points, 39%-22%, in being seen as more honest and trustworthy, essentially unchanged from the spring.

                What these polls focus on determines their outcome. People think Biden is more trustworthy than Trump. Which is a good thing I guess.

                Second:

                Were Vice President Kamala Harris to replace Biden as the Democratic nominee, vote choices are 49-46%, Harris-Trump, among all adults (and 49-47% among registered voters). Harris’ 49% is slightly better than Biden’s 46%, although she doesn’t have a statistically significant lead over Trump.

                They claim she has no statistical lead. So are we just pussy footing around here yelling at each other? She’s the VP anyway, at 81 Biden has a high fucken chance of not serving the whole term. Not that I’m advocating for that. But the last time we did this, again I’ll reiterate, we fucking lost dude. People dont like swapping candidates this late, it creates uncertainty. Which, could consume Harris’s entire nonstatistical lead. I’m down with whatever, I’ll vote D. But that doesn’t mean I won’t say shit when we are repeating history again either way we slice it.

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                  But the last time we did this, again I’ll reiterate, we fucking lost dude

                  The last time we ran an incumbent like Biden, we fucking list dude.

                  That’s what you’re not understanding.

                  Everything we normally go off of, says Biden will lose.