The people passionate enough to post here ARE going to vote for Biden… but we’re not the ones that need CONVINCING. It’s the normies who are not terminally online like you and me and everyone else here constantly scrolling Lemmy.
And NO… what the Ds are doing now isn’t enough. FDR’s GI bill was. The New Deal was. Passing Civil Rights legislation that let black people vote was. The Rural Electrification Act - which provided safe and reliable electricity to every single neighborhood in America no matter how rural for the first time in history for many people who’d never even seen light outside of a candle… that was enough.
Let me give you a story to explain our dumb monkey brains and why it’s on our REPRESENTATIVES to convince the masses to show up :
Every year, Denny’s - a shitty breakfast joint in the US that’s been around all over the place for decades - does (or at least used to do - I haven’t checked in a while) a “free breakfast day” where they allow anyone who gets in the door that day free breakfast until they run out of food.
Simple, popular, and a good enough thing that people will stand for an hour outside a shitty food place for a $10 plate of lukewarm pancakes, dry powdered eggs, and soggy bacon.
Now let’s pretend that the Democratic Party now runs Denny’s for some reason. First off they’d never do a “free breakfast.” They’d have a “bring a coupon” or a “if you show your ID that proves you’re below X% of the current median salary or X% of the current poverty level adjusted for inflation” or a “mail in your receipt and in 5 weeks we’ll give you a tax write-off you can get to reduce your tax debt as long as you itemize” day. Also you’d only get to do it once per decade or some other bullshit.
So no one would show up. Because all the bullshit instead of just “free breakfast.”
But they don’t even do that. Let’s pretend the abortion issue is Denny’s free breakfast day. Democrats would be saying “IF you don’t come wait in line outside the Denny’s for 2 hours in high enough numbers, we’re going to cancel the ‘bring a coupon for free breakfast that day’ event we do every year.”
…And people don’t show up for that as much… because we have dumb monkey brains that want a candy bar or pancake right now.
Now do you see why it’s not really helpful to tell voters THEY have a responsibility? If you do a good job by telling people what you are going to do and its simple and tangibly beneficial, and then you DO it… or at least LOUDLY proclaim every moment you’re in front of the bully pulpit why you aren’t able to do so by righteously pointing out when the Rs and even the Joe Manchin types blocking it at every moment, turns out people DO show up.
TL;DR - YOU MUST OFFER SOMETHING TANGIBLE TO MOTIVATE THE COMMON MASSES TO WAIT OUTSIDE THEIR 1 REMAINING POLLING STATION FOR 8 HOURS… NOT JUST SCOLD THEM AND TELL THEM THEY’RE GOING TO LOSE <X> IF THEY DON’T OR THEY WON’T SHOW UP… BECAUSE WE ARE ALL DUMB MONKEYS THAT WANT A BANANA RIGHT NOW AND NOT A “ONE-TIME MAIL-IN PARTIAL-REBATE ON OUR MONKEY TAXES, BUT ALSO ONLY FOR MONKEYS WHO HAVEN’T HAD MORE THAN 3 BANAN…”
Well that’s a hell of a tortured metaphor, but point taken. Deliverance from definite fascist destruction of democracy and the planet is not motivating enough.
Dude, you are preaching to someone who gets what will happen if folks don’t vote for Biden. Please do vote for him for the love of all that is decent and stable and a chance at an actual future for democracy.
I’m not here to point out how it’s great that human brains are like this… I’m just trying to paint reality for you.
Dumb monkey brain. Immediate simple reward. No complex means-tested mazes of garbage to wade through.
Cancel all student debt. Make college tuition-free. Cancel medical debt.
Do it, even if the Rs scream it’s illegal. Do it. And when they stop it with their corrupt rich-asshole appointed Supreme Court, point at the Rs and yell “SEE?! THEY DON’T YOU TO HAVE GOOD THINGS! THEY HATE YOU!” And expand the court. And then you win elections.
And when they stop it with their corrupt rich-asshole appointed Supreme Court, point at the Rs and yell “SEE?! THEY DON’T YOU TO HAVE GOOD THINGS! THEY HATE YOU!”
They are doing that. You can see it’s been picked up by corporate news like wildfire. Or - what’s the opposite of wildfire.
I agree. I’ve been arguing this point against decades of Republican-lite tone-deaf dipshit Dem leaders. For those who don’t know, believe it or not, it’s finally moving - just as the “waah dems didn’t give me a pony” crowd are so helpfully parroting russian GRU talking points to depress turnout.
Yeah on the whole Dems have gone through plenty of ineffective and blatantly counter activity in the last 50 years. But they’ve also been the mechanism by which anything good has been legislated. Sometimes with Republicans’ help, usually not.
And because the electoral college is such a lopsided slave-owner cheat device, third party is most definitely only detrimental at this time. Yeah, like last time, yeah like every other time we’ve had to deal with the electoral college which is, uh, at least the last 50 years.
“Weeeahh but why don’t democrats get rid of the electoral college”. FFS. Yeah. Why. It’s probably a grand bougie conspiracy. OR - or, okay, a complicated and massive governmental change which is almost impossible to do without overwhelming public support.
Some people here just don’t seem to get it.
The people passionate enough to post here ARE going to vote for Biden… but we’re not the ones that need CONVINCING. It’s the normies who are not terminally online like you and me and everyone else here constantly scrolling Lemmy.
And NO… what the Ds are doing now isn’t enough. FDR’s GI bill was. The New Deal was. Passing Civil Rights legislation that let black people vote was. The Rural Electrification Act - which provided safe and reliable electricity to every single neighborhood in America no matter how rural for the first time in history for many people who’d never even seen light outside of a candle… that was enough.
Let me give you a story to explain our dumb monkey brains and why it’s on our REPRESENTATIVES to convince the masses to show up :
Every year, Denny’s - a shitty breakfast joint in the US that’s been around all over the place for decades - does (or at least used to do - I haven’t checked in a while) a “free breakfast day” where they allow anyone who gets in the door that day free breakfast until they run out of food.
…And people go fucking nuts for it.
In every instance you search on Google for “Denny’s free breakfast day crowd” you can see that people lined up for BLOCKS for a shitty Denny’s breakfast.
Simple, popular, and a good enough thing that people will stand for an hour outside a shitty food place for a $10 plate of lukewarm pancakes, dry powdered eggs, and soggy bacon.
Now let’s pretend that the Democratic Party now runs Denny’s for some reason. First off they’d never do a “free breakfast.” They’d have a “bring a coupon” or a “if you show your ID that proves you’re below X% of the current median salary or X% of the current poverty level adjusted for inflation” or a “mail in your receipt and in 5 weeks we’ll give you a tax write-off you can get to reduce your tax debt as long as you itemize” day. Also you’d only get to do it once per decade or some other bullshit.
So no one would show up. Because all the bullshit instead of just “free breakfast.”
But they don’t even do that. Let’s pretend the abortion issue is Denny’s free breakfast day. Democrats would be saying “IF you don’t come wait in line outside the Denny’s for 2 hours in high enough numbers, we’re going to cancel the ‘bring a coupon for free breakfast that day’ event we do every year.”
…And people don’t show up for that as much… because we have dumb monkey brains that want a candy bar or pancake right now.
Now do you see why it’s not really helpful to tell voters THEY have a responsibility? If you do a good job by telling people what you are going to do and its simple and tangibly beneficial, and then you DO it… or at least LOUDLY proclaim every moment you’re in front of the bully pulpit why you aren’t able to do so by righteously pointing out when the Rs and even the Joe Manchin types blocking it at every moment, turns out people DO show up.
TL;DR - YOU MUST OFFER SOMETHING TANGIBLE TO MOTIVATE THE COMMON MASSES TO WAIT OUTSIDE THEIR 1 REMAINING POLLING STATION FOR 8 HOURS… NOT JUST SCOLD THEM AND TELL THEM THEY’RE GOING TO LOSE <X> IF THEY DON’T OR THEY WON’T SHOW UP… BECAUSE WE ARE ALL DUMB MONKEYS THAT WANT A BANANA RIGHT NOW AND NOT A “ONE-TIME MAIL-IN PARTIAL-REBATE ON OUR MONKEY TAXES, BUT ALSO ONLY FOR MONKEYS WHO HAVEN’T HAD MORE THAN 3 BANAN…”
Well that’s a hell of a tortured metaphor, but point taken. Deliverance from definite fascist destruction of democracy and the planet is not motivating enough.
What about free panninis?
Dude, you are preaching to someone who gets what will happen if folks don’t vote for Biden. Please do vote for him for the love of all that is decent and stable and a chance at an actual future for democracy.
I’m not here to point out how it’s great that human brains are like this… I’m just trying to paint reality for you.
Dumb monkey brain. Immediate simple reward. No complex means-tested mazes of garbage to wade through.
Cancel all student debt. Make college tuition-free. Cancel medical debt.
Do it, even if the Rs scream it’s illegal. Do it. And when they stop it with their corrupt rich-asshole appointed Supreme Court, point at the Rs and yell “SEE?! THEY DON’T YOU TO HAVE GOOD THINGS! THEY HATE YOU!” And expand the court. And then you win elections.
They are doing that. You can see it’s been picked up by corporate news like wildfire. Or - what’s the opposite of wildfire.
Well, at best - maybe. Again: Electoral College.
I agree. I’ve been arguing this point against decades of Republican-lite tone-deaf dipshit Dem leaders. For those who don’t know, believe it or not, it’s finally moving - just as the “waah dems didn’t give me a pony” crowd are so helpfully parroting russian GRU talking points to depress turnout.
Yeah on the whole Dems have gone through plenty of ineffective and blatantly counter activity in the last 50 years. But they’ve also been the mechanism by which anything good has been legislated. Sometimes with Republicans’ help, usually not.
And because the electoral college is such a lopsided slave-owner cheat device, third party is most definitely only detrimental at this time. Yeah, like last time, yeah like every other time we’ve had to deal with the electoral college which is, uh, at least the last 50 years.
“Weeeahh but why don’t democrats get rid of the electoral college”. FFS. Yeah. Why. It’s probably a grand bougie conspiracy. OR - or, okay, a complicated and massive governmental change which is almost impossible to do without overwhelming public support.