• filoria@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    6 months ago

    If anyone wanted more evidence of how IMF loans are not in the best interests of the countries that take them, see here.

    • nekandro@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      6 months ago

      The entire principle of authoritarianism is either public support or public apathy. An authoritarian regime is only as stable as its populace.

      A government that butchers its people against the will of the populace cannot survive even if it is democratic. A government that butchers people with the will of the populace will survive regardless of whether or not it’s authoritarian.

      See: Israel, America, Canada, Australia, UK

      There’s no fundamental difference between a democratic and authoritarian government in this regard. The primary difference is (and has always been) whether property is managed as a function of the state (monarchies, socialism) or as a function of the individual (democracies, anarchy).

      Well, that and the “people” that get killed in democracies are usually of a different skin colour than you, so maybe you just don’t care?

    • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      25
      ·
      6 months ago

      “Authoritarian” is connected to horseshoe theory which has holocaust trivialization history, please avoid using it

      • GulbuddinHekmatyar@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        6 months ago

        That was a stretch but do you mean that the theory of totalitarianism was used to conflate Nazi Germany and USSR, and to an extent, justify double genocide theory…?

        That being said, I don’t see how it relates?

      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        What would you say if I characterized the third reich as authoritarian? Would that make me a Holocaust trivializer?

          • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            ·
            6 months ago

            It’s a square-rectangle situation in my view. All fascists are authoritarian bit not all authoritarians are fascist

            • OurToothbrush@lemmy.mlM
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              edit-2
              6 months ago

              Okay but bow is authoritarian useful? Can you find a definition that applies to Vietnam, Cuba, China, etc, that doesn’t also apply to the governments of NATO countries like the US, France, England, etc?

              • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                6 months ago

                I think Juan Linz created a decent criteria. It’s useful as a descriptor of how much personal liberty a person residing in a particular state can assert and how easily a person can petition their government without fear of reprisal.

    • Grimy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      ·
      6 months ago

      If we can’t find something to live for, we will find something to die for.

      This one is a good one too, in the article as well.

  • naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    6 months ago

    This is where China’s “debt trap diplomacy” might actually be beneficial for Kenya…

    China’s loans serve to improve the top-line (economic growth), and China’s loan concessions don’t affect that. When Kenya puts Mombasa Port’s 50-year operating and port fees up for collateral, that’s a hit on the bottom line (Kenya’s government revenues) but does not change the fact that the port still exists to drive economic growth. Moreover, often the short-term hit in port revenues is less than the interest that would’ve been paid on the loan, so these collateralized loans are often cashflow neutral or even cashflow positive to default on.

    The IMF and World Bank are more focused on padding the bottom line (tax revenues) by increasing taxes and decreasing subsidies. What an insane policy.

    If a country can’t grow, how can you expect it to pay off it’s loans? The entire principle of government loans in the 21st century is that GDP growth makes loans progressively less expensive. The IMF and World Bank exist only to keep developing countries poor.

    • possibly a cat@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      6 months ago

      I agree that China would be better to work with than the IMF.

      Closing some of the international investor tax exemptions that were on the chopping block might still be beneficial in that case though, imo.