cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17119069
“In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law,” warned Justice Sonia Sotomayor. “With fear for our democracy, I dissent.”
Cool, Biden should use those new get out of jail free cards to do a lot of shit to improve the lives of Americans and probibit Project 2025.
The party about of rule of law just got told it’s rule of law to just do whatever as president, so go nuts. Pack the court. Forcibly remove the supreme Court. Ignore it.
Hell the constitution never even said the Court has the right to interpret and block laws, that was due to the Court expanding its own power. We just went with it because Jefferson had his own Xanatos Gambit played on him.
Come on Biden do something really cool with this, make them regret it.
So, open season for Biden to get some Supreme Court justices an “early retirement” then?
Yes, but in classic dem fashion he’ll do absolutely nothing with this new power, and also do nothing to stop its use. Then will continue running a dogshit campaign to get trump re-elected come November. We are well and truly fucked.
Sooo strip trump of his citizenship, and remove the Supreme court members that are in his pocket, reestablish new judges via voting. Create new ammendment that the president can and will be held accountable for breaking the law
Replace SCOTUS with an equal amount of democrats and Republicans.
This is oversimplifying it. They did not define “official acts”, obviously, but goose and gander. Biden is now available to use these new powers, and should.
In her dissent, Sotomayor made it pretty clear that that doesn’t matter.
“When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution,” Sotomayor wrote. “Orders the Navy’s SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.”
“In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law,” the justice added.
The dissent is not the prevailing ruling though. The other MAGA dip shits on the court just left the door open to anything for the next 6 months. All horrific derivatives of this timeline, sure. But they can’t stop the current administration apparently from doing the same shit without immunity until the next ruling. They’re just banking on the fact that Biden isn’t a gigantic piece of shit and will never pull the trigger on using any of these options.
I guarantee his team is sitting in a room right now coming up with ideas.
Yeah I hear you, but that door they left open is exactly why it doesn’t matter. By not defining official acts, they essentially gave themselves the authority to make that determination later, which means anything done as president can be considered official, as long as they say so. This was another power grab for them and any republicans who want to use it, but you can be sure the rules would be different for democrats.
That’s why the conservative SC justices would have to be declared enemy combatants, terrorists, or an emergency threat and be locked up. Now they cannot rule against the president. Or rush to pack the SC with friendly justices after removing the conservative ones, and lock up any members of congress who won’t approve the judges.
Not until October, and they won’t have enough time to do anything to fast track a damn thing depending on what happens. If it happens bettnow and then, it happens.
If Biden were to use his powers to force the 6 conservative Supreme Court Justices out, then there wouldn’t be anybody on the court who would disagree with the minority interpretation.
This here. As a European I am extremely worried about what is coming in US politics. I really really hope Biden will make use of this with foolproof consequences.
He won’t. America is fucked. This corruption will have an effect on the entire world.
I guarantee his team is sitting in a room right now coming up with ideas.
No, they aren’t. Their plan is to yell really loudly about how unacceptable the ruling is. That’s it.
Is it wrong to wish that Biden would immediately drone strike the justices that are in the majority for this decision?
Trump and his MAGA cult are a clear and present danger to our democracy and its citizens.
The SCOTUS is majority controlled by corrupt federalists openly colluding with lower courts and federalist donors to bypass our elected lawmakers (congress/senate/potus) to effectively unilaterally write policy. This is a clear and present danger to our democracy.
Biden has justification to clean house under official pretext.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
We’re setting up for an extremely dark period in American history. Buckle up fuckleheads
Well, fellow Americans. This experiment with democracy was fun while it lasted. Every significant goal of the founding fathers has been systematically thwarted by these Christofascists. We once again have a de-facto monarch.
The consequences of this decision will be dire, and unpredictable. Every law, every right, every freedom can now be undone by an official wave of the president’s hand. Rights to privacy? Gone. Due process? Gone. Bill of Rights? Gone.
No one—democrat or republican—should be happy about this. The right to bear arms is now on the chopping block right along with LGBTQ+ and abortion rights.
Hopefully I’m wrong. Hopefully I’m misreading the situation. But it sure sounds like every right that previously defined us as American people now hinges on the benevolence of our president. Americans can no longer brag about “American freedom.”
I don’t think you’re wrong.
Well, European cousins, hope you got more room in those countries of yours. 😬
Sorry, right wing fascist racist lying assholes have fucked everything up over here and made immigration illegal.
The devolution will not be televised.
Very true, very real.
So Biden could order the army to attack the USSC? He just has to declare it officially like Michael Scott?
I joke, but it’s a dark, dark day for this country and the rule of law.
It does appear to be legal now, until the lower court hears arguments, and it goes back to the Supreme Court for a final decision. This ruling seems to be a delay, so that Trump can take office, at which point this ruling doesn’t matter.
In other news, everything GOP presidents do is official and everything DEM presidents do is private.
This decision so blatantly ignores the constitution, history, tradition, case law, and all available evidence, that I have to question why they even bothered writing such a long decision. They might as well have just said “Fuck it, we say Trump is immune. Eat shit America, we can do whatever we want.”
I was thinking Pres Biden does all the stuff we seem to want him to, resigns and Pres Harris pardons him.
The ruling actually said the president “is entitled to at least *presumptive * immunity from prosecution for all his official acts.” Absolute immunity was reserved for “conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority.” I’m not defending this ruling, but we don’t need to misquote it.
Even discussing this ruling is pointless, because words no longer have legal meaning. Even if he was so inclined, Biden wouldn’t be allowed to take advantage of this concept of immunity. We’re just making up whatever shit we want and calling it Law.
Pretty much. The reality that this is has always been the case is finally smacking everyone upside the head. If there is no consistent application of the law, laws become meaningless. Might then makes right, and bedlam follows. America has been on a dangerous path for decades, this ruling is the the turn. Conservatives are displaying that they want Trump as dictator, and will do everything in their power to make that happen.
