US Olympics is probably being overly cautious ever since Taliyah Brooks collapsed from exhaustion when they refused to delay a US Olympic trials a couple years back due to extreme heat.
Taliyah was on pace to make it to the Olympics until that happened.
The ability to rest in climate control is going to give them an unfair advantage.
The organizers could have done it themselves and kept things equal instead of trying to greenwash the Olympics, they probably just chose to not do AC to reduce costs.
Just because US fuckers can’t live with a climate they helped create doesn’t mean the rest of the world has to follow them.
Not just “US fuckers”. These countries have also announced plans to bring AC units: Great Britain, Canada, Italy, Germany, Japan, Greece, Denmark and Australia
Sounds about white.
And so are they
Imagine living in a hot climate country. What a unfair situation.
The ability to rest in climate control is going to give them a
n unfair advantage.FTFY
I never thought heat would be an issue in Île-de-France
It’s not. Americans just can’t live without AC.
That is correct. We cannot.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
EUGENE, Ore. (AP) — The U.S. Olympic team is one of a handful that will supply air conditioners for their athletes at the Paris Games in a move that undercuts organizers’ plans to cut carbon emissions.
U.S. Olympic and Paralympic CEO Sarah Hirshland said Friday that while the U.S. team appreciates efforts aimed at sustainability, the federation would be supplying AC units for what is typically the largest contingent of athletes at the Summer Games.
“As you can imagine, this is a period of time in which consistency and predictability is critical for Team USA’s performance,” Hirshland said.
The Washington Post reported earlier this month that Germany, Australia, Italy, Canada and Britain were among the other countries with plans to bring air conditioners to France.
According to the International Energy Agency, fewer than 1 in 10 households in Europe has air conditioning, and the numbers in Paris are lower than that.
“It’s a high-performance environment,” Australian Olympic Committee spokesman Strath Gordon explained to The Post.
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The organisers should just cut their power supply. Or disqualify the team for trying to gain an unfair advantage.
How is it unfair? Couldn’t any team do the same thing?
ACs are not being provided to reduce emissions. Most teams seem to be respecting this decision.
No, it’s just posturing. The emissions from AC at the Olympic Village would have zero impact on climate change. This is just green washing for public perception points.
The emissions saved from removing a few hundred ACs are negligible. But the message it sends to the millions watching the Olympics is significant. Which, again, is why I am hoping there will be at least some symbolic action against rule-breakers - it will start a conversation about the need to regulate / ban ACs.
As far as I can tell, there is no rule to break here.
Lol that’s bullshit, someone fucked up to save a dime and they’re trying spin it
First of all, [citation needed]. Second, even if it is, a good message is being sent.
If living areas of the Olympics are getting hot enough that AC gives an advantage. They’re too damn hot, and that’s on France…
ACs are not being provided to reduce emissions. Everyone is being asked to accept an equal handicap, so that the world does not become even hotter in the coming years. It’s largely symbolic, I agree, but I suppose kicking out a team that prioritises its medal tally over the climate crisis would send an even stronger signal.
AP again has a shit take: Olympic Village is real estate and will likely be sold off as real estate when the Olympics end. Installing AC, even if it makes sense in the short term, makes zero sense for the long term utility of the building.
What’s wrong with AC if it’s powered by renewable electricity?
France’s energy supply is almost entirely nuclear, which isn’t the easiest to ramp up and down on a minute-by-minute basis.
All electricity has some GHG footprint, and not using that electricity by definition has a lower GHG footprint. Plus, AC creates a heat island effect that forces other city occupants to also install AC, making the outside increasingly miserable over time.
In France high demand periods are met with fossil. The rest of the time it’s mainly just nuclear. We don’t have enough renewable energy
Nothing really, unless the system leaks refrigerant and isn’t taken care of promptly.
CO2 can be used as a refrigerant now
This is a shit take that completely ignores the laws of thermodynamics. Where do you think all that heat goes?
I’m not sure what you think is happening here, but energy is just being moved around. Air conditioners aren’t just belching out extra heat. If air conditioners were 100% efficient then they’d break even on heating, but in reality they’re much better than that, pretty much all air conditioners are at least 200% but most are more than that. This is achieved by using the same effect that your refrigerator uses - the radiator behind the freezer isn’t mega hot, right? You could look into vapor-compression refrigeration to learn more.
I don’t think you understand thermodynamics.
ACs are heat pumps that use temperature differentials to move heat from one side to another. There are inherent losses there (e.g., moving 1000kJ of heat out of a room might take 500kJ, for 200% efficiency). That excess 500kJ is dumped outside into the world along with the 1000kJvof heat, creating a local heat island effect. That’s why ACs consume electricity, and that’s where the energy goes.
The radiator behind the freezer isn’t mega hot because of advances in insulation that limit the amount of heat that needs to be moved and advances in efficiency when operating in specific temperature regimes. A modern fridge consumes 400kWh a year, which averages out to 1.1kWh/day, or 45W continuous draw. That’s about the same as a laptop charger. But, well, obviously your house is much larger than your fridge. A fridge might average 400L in volume, but your house averages more like 600000L (1500x more).
If you could move heat around without incurring losses, you could use that to construct a perpetual motion machine. Conservation of energy is a thing and entropy always increases.
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Realistically the heat added via electricity is likely going to be added to the compressor itself not the radiator so ofcourse the radiator will be cooler. Also, a laptop charger has to convert from AC to DC so they will always consume more than the listed power output.
If we want to really dive into the depth of the subject though, more thermal energy is created, stored, and radiated in heat islands from cars than air conditioning. You’d be hard-pressed to heat the planet via electricity when the sun is really the thing doing all the work here. If the AC is powered via solar it’s a big nothing burger really, especially if the solar panels are in the same geographical area as there would be no exporting energy to different locations.
Now, let’s consider all the cars, planes, and asphalt that will be used for the olympics. Seems to me the best way to reduce the effects of climate change in this scenario is to not have the olympics unless it is walked to.
AC/DC converter losses are on the order of 10%. Negligible, and don’t change the point. Your pedantry is noted and ignored.
They could sell that renewable energy to Germany who only burns hydrocarbons
I didn’t see the /s, so In case you’re being serious, here’s the wiki for Germany renewable energy. There’s a lot more than hydrocarbons going on.
