• JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
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    At the risk of sounding repetitive:

    This is the guy that a group of people here want you to NOT vote against. Don’t listen to them and as many others have said already…. Vote like lives depend on it.

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      Everyone should vote for Biden.

      You pretend everyone to your left is all the way to your right because and only because you never want to move to the left.

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        To be honest, I think everyone should vote for a more fitting candidate. Unfortunately, all we have is Biden, so that will have to do for now.

        Vote Biden or see more crazy bullshit under Trump, people!

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        DudI, you are as predictable as they come. I could fish for Crab just by posting ANYTHING critical of the “far left” propagandists.

        And- I don’t pretend, kiddo…

        They are here in DROVES telling people not to vote. And you know this. You’ve been involved in some of the discussions where these people post their shit-take comments. So what’s your angle here?

        You say you’re voting for Biden, yet protect the propagandists that are seemingly trying to get Trump elected?

        Citation needed

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          DudI, you are as predictable as they come. I could fish for Crab just by posting ANYTHING critical of the “far left” propagandists.

          You’re admitting to trolling here. The scare quotes around far left are another attempt to tie anyone to your left to the worst of the right, with no evidence at all.

          And- I don’t pretend, kiddo…

          Ok. If you prefer I say that you’re lying about everyone to your left in your constant attempts to silence criticism, I can do that. Demeaning pet name noted.

          They are here in DROVES telling people not to vote.

          Not just droves, all-caps DROVES, even. Like Republicans call the brown people they hate on the spurious grounds that they’re here to steal their jobs. What do you suppose these all-caps DROVES are here to steal? Oh, maybe since they all became Russians the instant they disagreed with you about anything at all, they’re here to steal your precious bodily fluids.

          So what’s your angle here?

          I criticize people to my right. You should try it.

          You say you’re voting for Biden

          Yes, I am.

          yet protect the propagandists that are seemingly trying to get Trump elected?

          I cannot protect the people you call propagandists from anything. And if they’re trying to get Trump elected, they’re going about it pretty badly. This is a small fledgling platform, full of centrists who are so firmly entrenched in their positions that they imagine that anyone to their left is a scary foreigner, or feign such paranoia in an attempt to silence criticism of their wing of the party, and to a lesser extent Biden and Netanyahu. Propaganda would see a piss-poor return on investment here.

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            I’m not admitting to anything. I’m simply stating that you predictably show up any time someone is critical of your bullshit.

            And when have I tried to silence criticism by suggesting people vote? Let’s see some evidence of your accusation for once.

            Dude… you’re a well know misinformation troll here. The modlogs prove it and all you do is derail the topic into bullshit rhetoric.

            I’m done discussing your bad faith bullshit.

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              I’m not admitting to anything.

              Already did. It was certainly more overt than what others have been banned for.

              I’m simply stating that you predictably show up any time someone is critical of your bullshit.

              When you call any and all criticism of Democrats from the left (and only ever the left) bullshit, you get pushback from people who criticize Democrats from the left. Imagine that.

              And when have I tried to silence criticism by suggesting people vote?

              You don’t. You try to silence criticism by falsely claiming that those to your left are propagandists trying to get Trump to win, with no evidence whatsoever. Any other claims I didn’t make that you want to demand proof of?

              Dude… you’re a well know misinformation troll here. The modlogs prove it and all you do is derail the topic into bullshit rhetoric.

              I stand by the only statement I’ve made that has ever been removed as misinformation. I can defend it no further here without going against the moderation team, and you’re taking advantage of that. I invite anyone to read the modlog and see what was removed and judge for themselves if it rose to the level of misinformation. Anyone with questions about it can message me, but I will not discuss it further in this community in accordance with the mods’ decision.

              I’m done discussing your bad faith bullshit.

              You’ll never be done calling anything to your left and only your left bad faith. Remember to vote for Biden.

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                Didn’t read any of that, but you go ahead and continue having this discussion all on your own.

                I’m not going to block you, but I am going to ignore you. It’s not worth it.

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        Palestinians-Americans know what will happen to them if Trump wins. Their life does depend on him not wining

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            In practicality, and this life-and-death is a matter of practicality rather than preference, betrayal beats zealous genocide support.

            Even as someone from outside, I can say the U.S.’ best bet is Biden again. His international politics are no different than most U.S. presidents that came to office in the last century, but at least U.S. citizens are getting a nice end of the mostly shit-ended sticks for a change. And that goes for all the current immigrant peoples in the U.S., too, although for many the reason for leaving their homes can be traced back to deep-rooted U.S. foreign policy.

            What do they have with Trump? Persecution during immigration while their home countries will be kept bombed to hell or stripped and exploited by the ongoing U.S. policy.

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              You’re talking to a propagandist by all appearances. They seem to know exactly what’s going on, so in order to get Trump elected, this is what they seem to think they need to do. Or maybe they’ve been told to do….

              I’m not sure how it works.

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              Trump pulled more troops out of the Middle East than Biden and Obama. Clinton ran in 2016 on a platform of going to war with Iran.

              Also the goal is not to reward Trump. The goal is to punish the support for genocide so American politics stop supporting genocide. The fact that two geriatric genocide supporters are your choices for the presidential election should bring everyone sane to the streets and push for the long overdue change of the political system. By keep voting Democrats purely based on “well they are not Trump” you get exactly what you got the last 30 years. Getting fucked by both parties, the Dems moving further and further to the right and the Reps enjoying many of their policies enacted by the Dems themselves. Look at Trumps border wall. Look at mass deportations. Look at the internment camps were children are separated from their families. All continued and expanded on by the current Dem administration.

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            You’re not going to vote for him either way. And everyone knows this. So no. You’re not getting your as kissed like you are expecting.

            That isn’t how it works. You get called out for what you’re doing and that’s that. Want people to be nice to you for allowing a rapist who will do much worse to Palestine to get elected?

            Not happening.

            Especially when this pretty much pokes a hole in your entire fake ideology.

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              Vitriol and negativity doesn’t win over voters. I’m starting to think a lot of the more ardent “Biden or Else” supporters actually want Trump to win. Stoking division among potential voters is a sure fire way to do that.

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                  Then why do you care. Wait, you actually think you’re changing Trump supporters minds? GMAFB

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                    Nope. I’m trying to ensure that the work propagandists do is undermined. Nothing more.

                    Calling you out seems to work just fine to that effect.

                    And thanks for pretty much admitting that you and non voters like you- are irrelevant to the upcoming election. That’s all I really needed you to say.

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              They are just angry that this is the choice: Biden, or Trump. I get it, I’ve been there. But, directing that frustration at others who have the same problems only serves those that seek to sow discord. A lot of people come here to vent. And if they want to direct their anger at me, I can take it. I just don’t want their venting to disenfranchise others that would vote for Biden.