What does “the economy” mean again? Is that just referencing the stock market which most Americans don’t care about because they don’t own stocks or have 401ks?

I mean, has anyone seen the prices of shit lately? It’s pretty fuckin insane. I can’t even imagine how most people make it work with kids and whatnot. Then again, all my working class friends that don’t have 401ks don’t actually vote anyway so maybe they just know their audience

Fair enough. I agree that that if it’s in her/biden’s name maybe normal campaign financing laws apply. That wasn’t what I was hearing, but I won’t pretend I looked into it in more detail.

That said, there are tons of ways to donate money from one party to another without breaking any laws - that’s kind of the whole problem we have. There’s no reason to think Harris keeps that money for her own campaign if we were in the scenario where we’re running a third person that isn’t either of them. It certainly isn’t a reason to end the discussion for getting us at least a fighting chance.

I understand how scary this is and how foreign the situation we’re in feels, but I don’t think the answer is necessarily to look for the safest option (especially if that means an old man with blatant dementia).

In a perfect world, we’d fill the streets and force them to put that money in a transparent account and use it to fund a candidate people actually support (one that support public financing of campaigns and all the end unnecessary spending and legalized bribery)

My bad, I typed up a whole response to you but apparently never sent it and now it’s gone. Here’s a brief reply

My criticism was about the claim that only Harris could use the campaign money. It’s ridiculous to think they wouldn’t support the DNC’s candidate. Besides that, there are tons PACs that can use the money they’ve received from donors for basically whatever they want.

Ouch. I typed up a whole reply to them but apparently never sent it and now it’s gone. Sigh. Oh well. I’ll reply to them next

My criticism was about their claim that only Harris could use the campaign money. It’s ridiculous to think that they wouldn’t support the DNC’s candidate. Besides that, there are tons PACs that can use the money they’ve received from donors for basically whatever they want.

The reply was maybe a bit harsh, in hindsight, but I keep seeing that parroted around like it’s undoubtedly true. It’s clearly just being repeated and not said with any significant critical thought. I mean, if we had a brokered convention it would be all hands on deck at the DNC.

What the fuck are you talking about? You just decided to lie like that? That’s wild

Excellent meme face

I never said Jim Crow was cool or anything. lol

I consider Black Americans Americans so… America gets the credit

I don’t think we’re understanding each other here. Wasn’t really trying to argue. Sometimes, two things can be true. No?

I was referring moreso to the cultural impact. (Though from your later replies I think you’re just making a joke I’m not getting)

When I think of things I respect about the US and the positive impact its had, I tend to think of how most governments at the time (50s-70s and 70s-90s) seemed to be cracking down on personal free expression (granted that was happening in the US for nonwhite people) and yet Americans (specifically those in counter-culture movements) were able to resist and come out on top. Hell, I’d even throw in comic book creators as having made their mark on moving the needle towards free expression despite loud criticism from conservative mobs.

While yes, what about rock and roll, or hip hop or the ability to criticize politicians you disagree with? That was all cool. Shit, having trouble coming up with more. I’d put the new deal in there too. That shit was gold and created a strong working class. Just sucks how dumb we’ve always been because of the racism and greed (can’t fund good schools for everyone or have public pools or whatever)

Good thing back in the day there were probably very few cult leaders…

Does anyone wonder about how the story of Jesus being plagiarized from the Egyptian myth of Horus affects the narrative about the Jesus that supposedly lived and died a century earlier? You know the one that happened to have incredibly important political value for the established leaders of the time?

No? Me either. Praise Horus!

Shit, I don’t get it!

Yeah, me too! I’d totally rather die in a camp or be deported than stand for my values and fight for what’s right, especially if it might give the appearance that I’m compromising on my values which I’m absolutely willing to compromise in the interest of politics. /s

Snark aside, I wish we’d stood up for Anthony Weiner. Dude was legit amazing back in the day. Corporate media networks were absolutely gleeful to tear him down and people just watched it happen and laughed the whole time. Then again, I think maybe my values are just more in line with the idea of actually accomplishing political goals (read: legislation and policy) and not so much with making performative gestures that only serve to hurt said political goals. Obviously, in Weiner’s case dude committed crimes (iirc), but again he was an incredible politician, which is what he was hired for. Politicians are tools, like doctors and mechanics, they’re not our friends; they’re fellow citizens that provide a necessary service. I wouldn’t let Weiner or my mechanic babysit but that doesn’t mean they’re not skilled at what they do.

Anyway, we’re probably going to just continue arguing about bs like this while the right consolidates power and supports ruthless leaders. All while we’re asking/tearing down our leaders what pronouns they use or their opinions on eating steak or who knows what. Else Not saying pronouns and the beef industry/climate change aren’t important to some/many people - power to em, for sure - but it seriously feels like people need to get a grip. The distractions are real. We need to focus!

/rant

I’ll miss Al Franken and I was disappointed he didn’t stand up for himself. His supporters and his constituents deserved that, imo