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Cake day: August 4th, 2023

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    • Buy good walking shoes, not just basic sneakers. That pair of chucks or vans may look cool, but they are terrible for standing and walking for long periods. Your feet will thank you later.

    • Download offline maps so you can find your way if you lose data/reception.

    • If your travel is focused on going around and not staying put at your accommodation (i.e. resort), don’t bother with getting super expensive hotels. What’s important is that it’s clean and safe. You can use the money saved for when you’re actually going around.

    • Save scans of your passports and other important documents on your phone or somewhere online, in case it gets lost or stolen.

    • Bring a pen. You’ll need to fill out forms as you enter and exit ports. It’s a hassle having to borrow a pen from other travelers.

    • Bring a small pouch bag for you phone, wallet, keys, and passport. That way you can securely carry it with you wherever you go without dragging around your luggage. Edit: Here’s a prime example of why a small bag you can wear on your body is helpful. Happened just a few days ago: https://youtu.be/xEUtmS61Obw



  • Have you ever lived in an actual third world country? Here’s some from my home country for each of your examples:

    • Corruption in government is worse and more blatant than what you see in the US. It happens at the top all the way down to the lowest levels. You sometimes have to bribe people just to get some services done. I once had to have a police report done for an auto accident. The officer had the report typed up and they just needed to click the print button. He then said I can pay a quick process “fee” to get the report now, or come back to get the report in 3 days. It was an hour drive to the station, but I didn’t want to pay a bribe, so I came back after 3 days.

    • Infrastructure is crumbling not just because of lack of maintenance, but because the cheapest materials are used and infrastructure is not built up to code. Every step of the process means a cut for someone’s own pockets, so you end up with a tiny amount compared to what was initially funded. Perfectly functioning roads are destroyed and rebuilt in perpetuity because contractors are in cahoots with local government to implement “projects” where they fleece funds by agreeing on a budget then switching materials to substandard quality and pocketing the remaining amount, with the politician getting a % of course. A section of the street in my childhood home is still unpaved 30+ years later just because no one bothered to finish it.

    • Homeless people in the US may still have access to food banks, shelters, charities, etc. Homeless people in thrid world countries may have nothing at all.

    • People lose power in the US due to catastrophies. We had random 12 hour blackouts and water shut-offs several times a month for no reason at all. Water isn’t potable in the entire country and you have to boil or buy water from filter stations if you want to be safe.









  • The article literally states that it’s the lack of job opportunities because of the lack of transferable skills and having to only fill gaps in the job market, the pandemic, and the bad economy that’s causing them to go back. I’m just relaying what the source is saying, I’m not making or changing any story. The only person who claimed I was saying it’s the root issue is the other person I was replying to. I never said so even in my first comment. I have no idea how or why you think I need to project.

    If you think I have some agenda about turning this into an HK-China debate, then I’m sorry but it’s you who’s projecting. It’s so weird how people on here are so hostile and defensive when someone is just pointing out details written in the source article.



  • Yup, I am not claiming it is the root issue, just that I think it’s one of the reasons for their struggles, based on the examples given by the article, and because I can relate. Native born people in the UK having the same issues certainly show it’s not limited to immigrants, so it’s not a specific issue that’s special to HK citizens moving to the UK, it’s a global issue that happens everywhere where people move, and some move back because they can’t find good opportunities. And while the author presumes (for some reason) some of the respondents are not telling the truth, the survey results did say 99 percent of those interviewed do not plan to return.


  • Not sure if you caught my last edit before you replied, but there is certainly basis for my assertion, like the lawyer and doctor examples and the article stating that some had to take lower pay jobs because of lack of opportunities/vacancies and having to only fill gaps. Another example from the article is the teacher, whose qualifications might be a gray area because of different educational systems, so it may or may not be transferable. The article is the source of my assertion, because it literally points out that it’s the lack of job opportunities, the pandemic, and economic downturn that’s causing them grief. Tech workers definitely have an edge there as those skills are universal, and in that case it boils down to availability of jobs.

    Another basis of my assertion is my own lived experience. I work in tech, so it was relatively easy to transfer my skills and my employer just had to prove I could fill the job vacancy. My sibling who is a lawyer doesn’t have that same opportunity because their degree and title are not recognized in other countries. My other sibling on the other hand is a RN in our home country, and by getting qualified via the destination country’s affiliated-bodies, they are able to transfer their qualifications to at least caregiver status and work in that kind of job, which is lower pay, but still a job.

    I’m not claiming lack of transferable skills is the core issue, I’m just saying it seems to be a factor based on what is stated in the article. The article mostly highlights lack of job opportunities after all.


  • Right, transferable doesn’t necessarily mean you have to be highly educated or skilled, just that there are opportunities available for that skill that need to be filled. Hence it was also mentioned in the article that the lorry driver who moved had no issues finding a similar job with the same pay. Sometimes it boils down to what opportunities are available, not necessarily how educated or highly skilled you are. Another example the article states is that professionals like doctors and lawyers who obtained qualifications from UK-affiliated bodies had it easier. Those who didn’t obtain those qualifications have skills that aren’t immediately transferable due to having different standards in HK and UK. So a lawyer in HK for example can’t just go to the UK and immediately practice there. Some doctors may transition to nurses because of lower requirements.


  • It is worth noting that the ones who chose to return had the unfortunate circumstance of not having transferable skills and ended up working low paying jobs compared to what they had at home. Most of the people who had transferable skills have good paying jobs and are living comfortably. Most of the people surveyed also said they did not wish to return. I’m guessing someone who chose to move did not like their present circumstances in the first place so it’s not surprising that the majority want to stay.