• loaf@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    I never thought I’d say this, but America needs to be more like France. They didn’t forget what fascism looks like.

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      4 months ago

      Why would you never think you’d say that? France is a rather functional country on the whole.

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        4 months ago

        Sorry, that was a poorly worded response on my part. Thinking back, I’ve watched France stand up numerous times (if memory serves) against this type of hard-right nonsense.

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      Don’t speak too fast. With the RN (far right) being unable to govern now, they’ll be able to watch comfortably from the sidelines and criticise everything the others are attempting to build without doing anything themselves. They will be blameless for the presidential elections in two year’s time.

      Had they been in power now, we would have seen how incompetent they are and it could have lowered their chances for the next election. And we’d have had them for two years instead of five (or, ok, a risk of two + five).

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        With the RN (far right) being unable to govern now, they’ll be able to watch comfortably from the sidelines and criticise everything the others are attempting to build without doing anything themselves.

        Which is what the GOP does anyway. Obstruct any progress as much as possible, criticize the Dems for not doing anything while ignoring their obstruction as the reason, and when something does happen to get through their obstruction they go back to their districts and take credit for it.

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            They’re not that different. Democrats and Republicans are just coalitions that are already formed. The actual party organizations in different states are run very differently, with different priorities. The Democratic Party in MA is not the same as the Democratic Party in Texas.

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    4 months ago

    France shifts to the left, but risk of policy paralysis looms - https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-shifts-left-risk-policy-paralysis-looms-2024-07-08/

    The French people absolutely came out in force to wreck the far-right, which is a phenomenal upset from the predictions!

    They also gave no party a majority, and France has little experince in making broad coalition governments. I fucking hope the “Fuck Le Pencil” alliance of Centrists, Liberals, Leftists, and Communists can come together, but the stereotypical left infighting might neuter this before it’s begun.

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      4 months ago

      People on the overarching “western liberalism” side of the spectrum are usually fairly accustomed to putting aside their differences to cooperate on important things when the shit really hits the fan. The shit just has to hit the fan, first.

      Priorities and all.

      To quote Maya Angelou, “Surviving is important. Thriving is elegant.” When you can afford to, it’s good to fight for your particular vision. When your actual survival is threatened, however, that takes a backseat by necessity.

      We’re naturally good at this, because the principles of liberty and equality themselves require a certain willingness to cooperate and compromise with people with diverging views. As opposed to authoritarianism, where manipulation of and contesting for power is the ultimate method for sorting out how differing ideas get dealt with.

      Hopefully Macron remembers this, and remains willing to compromise with his left flank. I think he likely will.

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    4 months ago

    Turns out that having Nazis in your political party is not beneficial in some places. Food for thought.

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      The far right was defeated in the election, but they still grew their total presence in government. This graph just shows the increasing polarization in modern politics.

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        It’s not an increasing polarization, it’s literally about one issue: immigration, and the European left wing’s inability to say “no”.