• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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    He also played a clip from Biden’s interview with ABC News, when the president was asked how he would feel if Trump won the election.

    "I’ll feel, as long as I gave it my all and I did the good as job as I know I can do, that’s what this is about,” Biden said in the interview last week.

    Stewart raised his voice and pushed back on that comment.

    "That’s not what this is about! There are no participation trophies in endgame democracy. Oh yeah, I remember FDR saying, ‘Well, if the Nazis take over Europe, at least both teams had fun,’” he added.

    Full clip:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9LZXheHddI

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      Yup! That quote from Biden is absolutely fucking unacceptable. If you are unable to guarantee a success then get the fuck out of the way and lets find someone (not Harris) that can.

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          We may not like it, but Harris has a better chance of winning against Trump.

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            I, for one, like it. I think she would do a better job than Lemmy thinks she will. I would love to see her debate Trump.

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              Think you’re right, she’d do well against him. I just don’t like her. Some of her news bits had me thinking: Trump for Democrats

              Her whole career has been Fighting Against the People. If she’d fight billionaires and corporations like she took down stoners, I might think differently about her.

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              I listened to Newsom on Fox. I would pay high dollars to watch that debate. Or Katie Porter.

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          If she wins - good for her - if she loses, let it end her political career forever because she contributed to ending democracy.

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      Correction, Biden legit said “goodest job”, and if my soul was still functional I would have fell out of my chair when I heard it.

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        I definitely hear “goodest” and had no idea what “godd as” was, but was just leaving quotes as is.

        On Colbert’s monologue he said that Biden’s campaign insisted on the Times changing it to “good as” for some reason

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      This is what I’ve been fuckin’ saying since the interview!! Jesus, it’s nice to finally hear a public figure precisely articulate a serious concern I have.

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        It reminds me of political posturing on other issues, like everyone says they believe the climate scientists but they sure as fuck ain’t acting like it.

        Here too it really seems like those sounding the alarm aren’t alarmists at all. Trump is a fascist. But everyone’s still pretending like it’s completely fine to lose to him.

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    Hmm, Jon Stewart has a lot of influence, like it or not. If he can get behind a movement to get Joe Biden to…

    Stewart also noted he was not calling on Biden to step out of the race, but asked if Democrats could “open up” a larger conversation about their candidate.

    Well, shit. We’re stuck with Joe, aren’t we?

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      He’s saying the bare minimum is an honest discussion and evaluation of Biden.

      We’re not even getting that, were getting “buckle up buckaroos”

      And being gaslight about valid doubts about an 81 year who just set the record for oldest US president ever is fit to go back to back…

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          No they didn’t. There were no primaries and no Democrat dared challenge Biden lest they face the party’s wrath.

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      We were stuck with him a year ago. Unless you can turn back time and install ranked choice voting before primaries.

      Thinking otherwise is delulu.

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    So both candidates have hijacked their own parties, as they can literally destroy them if they are forced out.

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        Fuck that and fuck this, stop putting Biden on the same level as Trump. You can talk shit on him all you want, but he is infinitely better than Trump and it’s not even a discussion.

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          Reagan’s first term was infinitely better and worse than Trump. Second term Reagan is what we are looking at. Second term Reagan had me, a six year old in July of 1987, asking my parents why the most important man in the universe/ world was unable to complete a sentence, and why would we allow someone that clearly wasn’t in touch with reality to have access to the nuclear launch codes.

          Biden is showing all of the mentally unstable issues Reagan did in 1984…

          All that said, Live Biden > Dead Biden > Dead Trump > A Literal Steaming Pile of Cow Dung > Live Trump

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          I’m talking about the fact we only have two choices. First past the post. We should have ranked choice voting so a candidate cannot hijack their party like both candidates have.

          This isn’t Nixon and Kennedy it’s Hitler (Trump) vs Chamberlain (Biden)

          Understand the false dichotomy of choice that you’re in. Look at what France was just able to do, or what the UK finally did. The axiom of choice shouldn’t have to be binary.

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        Nooooo no no it hasn’t. Clinton vs the other guy was a BJ vs the other guy, Pre-wikileaks Bush vs Kerry was fool me cant be fooled again vs flip flops. McCain vs Obama was genuinely a war hero vs the first black prez. I’m not looking each election up and spitting from loose memory but the point is no fucking way has it ever been a rapist felon vs someone who was asked a question about abortion and was so fucking senile he answers with a fucking babbling story about a fuckin immigrant woman murdering I dont even know what the fuck he said it was so fuckin incoherent. There is no fuckin way you are old enough to vote if you are that short sighted that this is your stat quo.

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    Stewart’s episode is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running. I voted in the primary, there was more than one person to vote for, Biden even lost his primary in American Samoa. To say there was “no primary” is a lie, and suggesting a party swap out a candidate who already won a primary, and by doing so throw out the votes of millions of Americans who participated in that primary process, is anti-democatic. Do you want people to switch parties and vote in the republican primary? Because that’s how you do it. Did the DNC learn nothing from getting caught trying to crush Bernie’s primary chances?

    You lose voters you disenfranchise, period. I don’t care how good the DNC’s legislative aims are, if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

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      There was effectively no primary, quit dissembling. What happened to the 18 month primary circuses of 2015?

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        “My city election for mayor didn’t have enough choices on the ballot so it effectively wasn’t an election and we should re-do the election”. Democracy is run by those who show up. Sometimes, not many people show up. Sometimes you don’t like the people who show up. Some people aside from Biden ran in the DNC primary, they lost. Anybody could have ran. If you don’t liked the limited field of candidates, in a democracy, your options are: vote for who is available and run. That’s it. Anything else (calling for another election because you don’t like the result) is not democracy.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

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          Sometimes the people are very clear and the establishment still chooses whoever the fuck they want a la 2016 but sure

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          Nobody showed up because the DNC wanted it that way. It’s standard operating procedure to blindly stand behind the incumbent because statistically incumbent has a higher chance to win.

          It’s the safe option, so the DNC put their weight behind Biden.

          If DNC actually wanted an open primary with all sorts of people trying to win, we could have done that. But we didn’t.

          Now it’s becoming obvious Biden has no chances of winning this election because of his deteriorating mental condition. Not only that, he’s even less likely to be an effective head of state. Why are we choosing to put ul an almost-senile guy to represent the strongest country in the world?

          I think another primary is fully justified. The best course of action would have been to have a real primary in the first place. But what else are you going to do at this point?

          Biden can’t win and even if he could he shouldn’t win

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    You guys are not voting only for the president. It’s everything that comes with that. Like the supreme Court and all other justices.

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        I’m voting for Biden if he’s the one in the general, but I fear you may be right. Far too many normies have no idea what is at stake.

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          Yeah but even then it that is your only option & he still loses, then what happens when Democrats try the same thing again in 4 years. There can always be something worse than Trump and a party that capitalizes on that fear.