They should react to what I’m saying and not what they think I am then.

No one seems to get that I’m neither a gun owner nor enthusiast, but go ahead, keep them coming.

If you want an argument about gun ownership you are talking to the wrong guy.

As to the rest - you can read the writing on the wall about what happens in the next Trump presidency or you can ignore it. I can’t blame someone for wanting a better chance at self defense under those conditions though.

Have you not followed the context of this discussion that led to this seeming disagreement we’re now having? Please note, I am not the commenter in the picture below. I was explaining why someone would have this worry. If you think the worry is invalid or overblown, OK, I don’t feel the need to argue with you about it.

Hey I’ve got news for you - all the US is the gun nut bubble, and we all take the impacts from it, whether we own guns or not. You may have heard about our problems with school shootings, for example, or our police who are convinced everyone wants to kill them, and so open fire at the slightest provocation…

I’m not even a gun owner buddy, but I’m not going to pretend the world is going to stay safe for everyone who isn’t (or can’t pretend to be) a white cishet christian if Project 2025 comes to pass.

Edit: They are already ramping it up more, as if that were possible. They want to be ready to hit the ground running on Day 1 of Trump’s second term. https://www.advocate.com/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-rnc

I don’t think you know what the world is like outside your gun nut bubble.

Then you should probably be a little less judgy about what folks think they need to do to defend themselves within that bubble.

Since you aren’t from the US, you may not be aware of Project 2025, but “some christofascist militia has me on my knees in front of a ditch” is a plausible eventual outcome for many over here if Trump gets in again.

Except he was a never Trumper back in 2016. It’s going to be fun to play back those quotes.

I’m years past thinking anyone voting R cares about (or maybe even perceives) hypocrisy in the slightest if it comes from someone with R next to their name.

I’ll use that counterargument the next time someone brings up how he donated $15 to pacblue when he was 15 to convince me he’s a crazy left wing antifa whackjob or similar. Edit: Apparently that donation has been debunked anyhow. So on the balance of available evidence…

The fascist in chief is having the best week he could for his 2024 run. I’m glad I won’t be seeing any of my maga relatives any time soon, they must be insufferable right now.

Not in any way that will convince someone who doesn’t want to believe it, but for reasonable folks…

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-rally-gunman-thomas-crooks-was-definitely-conservative-classmate-recalls

Smith shared an American history class with Crooks, and remembered a mock debate where their teacher made students stand on one side of the classroom or another to signal their allegiance. “The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side,” Smith said. “That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other.”

I don’t think any of them have a problem, pretty sure they are magas and would love nothing more.

https://www.vox.com/23274533/secret-service-text-messages-january-6

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/secret-service-deleted-text-messages-jan-6-previous-day-homeland-secur-rcna38332

You know these are the people who still claim he won in 2020, right?

crickets

Well, I appreciate your candor.

🙂

This notion that, “If we just cover One More Scandal, we’ll get him this time!” to me is the definition of insanity.

It’s not about “this time we’ll get him” it’s about objective reporting. Trump was expected to lie is NOT a reason to not shout from the rooftops that he’s lying.

How do you convince the low-info apathetic battleground swing-state voters who hate both candidates and will decide this election?

Nothing but lots of hope. Facts and logic sure ain’t doing it.

This is one specific event with one specific scope. Both candidates performed poorly at that event. Only one of them has been in headline after headline. Yes, we all know Trump lies, but not covering his debate lies at least as much as covering Biden’s poor showing at the debate. Lies I remind you. One candidate participated in earnest if poorly. The other lied roughly once per speaking minute. As a candidate for President. That should be nonstop news, at least as much so as “Oh yeah, turns out Biden is old, too!”

he’s dramatically unpopular everywhere outside liberal bastions.

I don’t know anyone who actually likes him. We’re all just glad he’s not Trump. And frankly, I’d vote for him in much, much worse shape than he currently is against Trump.

Biden did quit well in the primaries.

With a little help from strategically timed withdrawals and Jim Clyburn, sure.

Based on that article, the rage is just twitter users calling her a moron. Nothing to see here, her ineptitude will continue to be ignored or praised by her base.