You ever feel like you live in some sort of Murphy’s Law parallel universe, where the worst possible outcome of every major event happens?
Yes, that is exactly how if feels.
How can I switch to the GOOD universe?
Turn off the Large Hadron Collider. All this shit started back when they turned it on 😉
But how does the LHC overlap with the Berenstain Bears and Fruit of the Loom cornucopia? ;)
Well, which circle of hell are you currently on? We need to ascertain that before you can formally appeal.
Checks notes on Earth simulation categories
I mean, considering all the fucked up shit that happened before I was even born I’d estimate we were in the 10000000000th circle.
That’s my house everyday
If only Trump had a gun, this wouldn’t have happen-
Oh wait… he’s a felon, so he can’t have a gun- but can run for president. This is America now.
He was surrounded by a lot of highly trained good guys with plenty of guns, the Secret Service, and even they couldn’t stop the bad guy, only respond to him.
(I’m paraphrasing from the second season premiere of The West Wing, but the writers were dead on 24 years ago.)
If they only had a teacher there with a gun, this wouldn’t have been a problem at all
Holy shit, he had blood on his ear? If that’s true, he was about a foot away from assassination. That’s wild.
Edit: saw a picture of him and he was def hit in the ear. We won’t hear the end of this for a long time. “Radical democrats are so scared that I’m going to win” etc
Edit 2: let’s do count of “how many push notifications does the news junkie get?” I’m at
347 so far. Edit: it’s a lot more than 7 but I’m done countingHe put his hand up to his ear before he went down and you can see blood on his face when Secret Service took him away. Whoever it was missed him by that much.
Don’t jump to conclusions. Unfortunately, it’s often times worse than it seems.
And yet, nobody in the crowd behind him was hit? That’s… really hard to believe.
There was blood in the crowd supposedly. Maybe a ricocheted bullet but it’ll be a while until we have reliable info
Edit: 2 dead so far
Oh, we’ll never have reliable info. The right-wing noise machine are already spinning up their conspiracies.
…The article was posted on NBC at 6:27, then posted here at 6:28. LESS than 30 minutes later 6:57 you declare, “we’ll never have reliable info”.
maybe don’t listen to the “noise machine”.
One audience member is dead.
It looks like a chunk of his ear is blown off. Fucking insane!
Not like he ever listened to anyone anyway.
Holy shit lol
I don’t see any chunk missing.
Best photo I could find, caution, blood.
A cropped version of this photo is in the article
Nobody in the crowd was hit with anything it seemed, so I don’t think he was shot. If anything, the secret service takedown probably did whatever it was. He’s never going to stfu about this. Wouldn’t be surprised if this was staged.
He was bleeding before secret service got to him. The video is literally linked for you by OP.
I saw it. Didn’t see any blood before he ducked, and his head was turned from the side he allegedly got hit in, so I’m not sure how you saw anything.
He wasn’t shot. Pure publicity stunt. Same shit as WrestleMania.
This is just going to further guarantee his victory. It’s fucking over. This country is done.
Shit’s pretty unpredictable. What happens if a MAGAt retaliates and whacks Biden?
this is a terrible tragedy but we need to continue to work towards unity in the country so nothing will be done
I think that is word for word what Johnson said. And he hated Kennedy.
Or Ford in pardoning Nixon. Or Obama not doing investigations into Iraq/Afghanistan/war on terror
Civil war!
I’m down
That’s my gut reaction too. It’s done. That fucking photo where Trump stood up and did the fist pump with the blood on his face and the American flag in the background:
There’s no beating that. That’s literally like a movie poster. Whether Biden stays or goes, I really don’t think it matters now.
Also as an aside, I don’t mean this as a compliment to Trump. I think he’s a raging piece of shit and I hope he loses. But it’s elections are all about perception and I really don’t see Biden doing anything to top this.
You said it better than I could have done myself. It is time to start preparing the resistance now. Civil disobedience is the only way forward.
Absolutely it will. Fuck.
C’mon dude, just post your demoralizing articles and give it a rest - there is no need to further betray your intent with additional words.
American politics is all theater.
Where is that not the case when talking about politics anywhere? Theater and life are coiled up around eachother and writhing, grasping at one another’s throats; whether lovers’ kisses, enemies’ venom is the intent, usually one comes out on top. In your good faith opinion, what will it mean when Trump loses anyway? What is the auteur going for in that scenario?
(In keeping with good faith I’ll disclose my personal bias that I would prefer a different candidate to oppose Trump but that I also think almost any of them can get it done after Georgia, Georgia, and… Georgia where the wrong politician was topping everything by every conventional understanding or metric.)
From abroad, for the love of everything please go vote. Everything in the US seems to leak out and global warming is well, global.
My vote is irrelevant. I live in a deep blue stronghold. Nothing I can personally do is going to change what is coming, and the path that we are on. It is time to prepare for the worst.
Never irrelevant! Don’t find out the hard way that you may be wrong about that. Keep the stronghold strong
Sounds pretty dramatic. With the new cycle the way it is, it will be forgotten in a month.
[X] DOUBT
You know these are the people who still claim he won in 2020, right?
Ah yes, I wanted to vote blue, but now that the felon’s ear got shot, I’ll vote for the fashists.
This is US politics and it makes sense.
No, it’s more like:
“I wasn’t going to vote because I don’t care about or follow politics. Now I see they are trying to kill this guy so I am going to vote for him because clearly the powers that be want him gone. So, he must be doing something to fight the system like JFK.”
Nobody who was going to vote Dem is changing their vote. It’s all the people who weren’t going to vote that now will because they either think he is badass for surviving an assassination attempt, or because of the web of new conspiracy narratives that are sure to be born from this that further serve to frame Trump as the savior of the common man from the clutches of the evil deep state.
I am going to vote for him because clearly the powers that be want him gone.
A 20 year old kid is “the powers that be”? LOL. Maybe they will think instead “Wow Trump must be a huge dick if people hate him so much they are trying to kill him”.
he is badass for surviving an assassination attempt
He didn’t look like a badass at all. He looked like someone who had been bloodied because he was so deeply hated.
You are evaluating based on your perspective, and not the perspective of a middle America normie. That’s the problem.
You are falling for the lame Treason Trump tactic of “spin every negative as somehow a positive”. Loser Trump gets convicted of a crime? That’s good! Sex Offender Trump is found guilty of rape? That’s good! Treason Trump is so widely hated by Americans that people want to kill him? That’s good!. Never get inside a conservative’s head if you are going to come out with a loser defeatist attitude.
I’m not falling for shit. I’m evaluating the reality of the average 95 IQ NPC that is going to vote in this election. No offense, but the fact you can’t understand that isn’t my problem.
I’m evaluating the reality of the average 95 IQ NPC that is going to vote in this election.
No, your falling for Treason Trump’s standard propaganda tactic of “pretend a bad thing that happened is a good thing”. The average person does not think that people hating you enough to kill you is a good thing.
I don’t see it, the lines have been firmly drawn for years. The maga crowd will vote for him regardless of anything and the rest of us wouldn’t piss on him to put out a fire.
It’s horrifying that our best hope is that a MAGA nutter kills Biden in retaliation and Harris wins in a landslide because of it.
Damn this is worst case dude is going to be made a maytr for this bs.
He’ll make himself into one if they’re not fast enough.
His base will embrace it. The question is will the center. I know I am not, as a centrist. But I only speak for myself.
I think you’ll find the polls tomorrow the same as the polls today.
Stop saying “he’ll be a martyr.”
This gets touted any time any consequence could come to him. Saying this makes it a lose lose situation. Either we let him get away and do whatever or “he’s a martyr.” No. He reaps whatever consequences come to him for his actions. It shouldn’t come as an assassination, but he has to have some consequence for what he does.
I wonder how Trump’s public image will change after this event. Will the MAGA crowd radicalise even more? Or will he have to drop out of the presidential race for safety concerns?
Either way, the aftermath will be interesting.
Radicalize. Every time.
May you live in interesting times.
Come on, bruh. He’s their god king.
Well, public rallies will be a no-no.
interestingmore insane
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Is it bad that… Given everything going on with 25 and the SCOTUS ruling I consider this attempted assassination patriotic?
not at all. this is what any sane person is hoping for, not just to prevent future catastrophe, but also just to send the message to these sociopaths that there are consequences.
Thank you. That makes me feel better.
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So apparantly the shooter was Republican?
I’m sure that was the intent behind the act.
I love how this is a “heinous act” even though the dipshit in charge of 25 basically said theyd kill the left if they were against them
Worthless asshole just gave him the election.
He should’ve practiced more
Biden’s official statement:
He’s in a video conference now.
"I have been briefed on the shooting at Donald Trump’s rally in Pennsylvania.
I’m grateful to hear that he’s safe and doing well. I’m praying for him and his family and for all those who were at the rally, as we await further information.
Jill and I are grateful to the Secret Service for getting him to safety. There’s no place for this kind of violence in America. We must unite as one nation to condemn it."
You know what’s sad about this?
If the roles were reversed, Trump would be offering the shooter a posthumous pardon and probably a medal. And no, I’m not joking. Trump would never be seen giving someone else the respect he demands from others.
I want Dark Brandon in the next debate “Let me say it again, in your good ear this time…”
Oh god please let this happen
Which is why Trump hasn’t answered Bidens call…
Exactly right.
Looks like the bullet grazed his ear. He was about to get Kennedy’d.
(I hate the source, F this guy) but here’s him being ushered off the stage after… https://x.com/stillgray/status/1812250467071885730
Edit: his base is going to be insanely fired up now. I’m genuinely scared about what’s going to happen now. I can see it already “the deep state tried to stop him and God saved Trump!” ugh.
The potential for backfire is massive. Of course in our timeline, Trump gets grazed in the ear. Stop teasing us.
I would honestly say the odds it was a failed genuine assassination attempt are slim to none. Doesn’t this feel far too convenient? We obviously know nothing now, but I feel like it’s gotta be the knee jerk assumption.
This is the absolute most insane take on this. Everything in the world isn’t some grand orchestrated plan.
I agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if this was all a ploy for attention so he can look tough, and rile up his base. That is completely on brand.
Edit: Unfortunately, it appears to be a completely genuine, yet failed, assassination attempt…
What the fuck are you two smoking?
Nothing. I’m just examining the situation, and asking who benefits.
Trump is a known coward. If he didn’t know this was coming he’d have shit his pants and run offstage. His reaction is entirely unrealistic to the situation and how he is known to act.
For fucks sake he asked for his shoes and waited around for them before leaving the stage. Those are not the actions of a man who is being actively shot at.
We have prior footage of him dippin’, dodgin’ and duckin’ at rallies from noises. You’re right the reaction seems off. But he could be delirious due to his aged mental acuity.
I don’t see why Trump would really need to be in on it. Plenty of people stand to gain from a trump presidency, and I’m not sure an “accidentally successful staged assassination” would be that much worse.
Trump is a known coward. If he didn’t know this was coming he’d have shit his pants and run offstage. His reaction is entirely unrealistic to the situation and how he is known to act.
spoken like someone who has never been shot before…
Can’t wait for the amped up christian nationalism…
Grand.
I wonder what the shooter’s politics are.
Liberal: commie assassin
Conservative or other: oh, just mentally ill.
E: shot looked like it came from the left. I wonder if the shooter was outside the rally area at a distance. Anybody else hit?
A conservative shooting at Biden would end up giving the keynote at CPAC.
Maybe it was Cheney. He’ll make trump apologize.
Nah, we know Cheney can shoot a man in the head without missing.
“We Are All Terrorists”
I saw a video where they panned to the right, and it looked like a hydraulic line on a nearby lift was hit.
It’s about 15 seconds into this video
https://x.com/The_Nomad_News/status/1812252572755144900?t=AJ3ZsQZ50WBWWh7pF0vnew&s=19
This all looks staged to me.
Hit in the ear that’s away from the camera.
Falls to the ground obscured from view so someone can do up his makeup.
Bullet just happened to ricochet and hit a hose line for the hydraulic system of some lift to show it’s a “real” bullet.
Then Trump gets up raising his first triumphantly.
You couldn’t write a better scene for Trump if you tried.
Hydraulic lift was the most innocent bystander of all.
Maybe having so many guns in this country is a bad thing.
Assassinating problematic politicians that want to be a king is sort of the point of the 2nd amendment.
Yep, dude who did this. Has used the 2nd for the correct purpose.
I think everyone should probably read The Second Amendment: A Biography by Michael Waldman
Yep, dude who did this. Has used the 2nd for the correct purpose.
It that light, the crowd cheering “USA” takes on a different meaning.
Not really. The second amendment is about states protecting themselves from the federal government. That’s why it’s talking about militias, not lone gunmen.
Violence begets violence, and Trump is responsible for no shortage of violence. Is this for the violence of Jan 6, or the violence against the women in his life, or some other time? I want to find out.
NYT photographer got the photo of the bullet, it seems that TMZ’s reporting that it was glass from the teleprompter is not correct:
https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1812293722832318726
Well that certainly blows up any argument it was staged. You don’t fake shoot a real bullet past your fake targets head.
That isolated tweet with the pic doesn’t claim to be from NYT or a NYT photographer. I’ve never heard of this “spectator index”. Here is the AP collection of photos from the event.
If I do assume that’s a bullet, let’s test if the size of the streak makes sense. A bullet travels at about 750m/s. That streak (using Trump’s head for scale) is about 50cm long, or 1/2 meter. A 750 m/s bullet travels 1/2 meter in 1/1500 seconds. When you consider projection effects (we might not be looking with a line-of-sight perpendicular to the bullet’s trajectory), we expect the length and time used in my above calculations to be lower bounds, with the true answer probably being within about a factor of 3 of that bound. This means that this image only makes sense as a bullet if the shutter speed is between 1/1500 and 1/500 seconds. That lines up with this website’s recommendation of 1/1000 second exposure time for bright outdoor shots.
Either a very good fake that considered the kinematics, or this is a real image of the bullet.
Thanks! With the information in the article you just linked, I am now very suspicious that this is a picture of the bullet, where I previously thought it was plausible from my low-precision estimate. From the article:
“If the gunman was firing an AR-15-style rifle, the .223-caliber or 5.56-millimeter bullets they use travel at roughly 3,200 feet per second when they leave the weapon’s muzzle,’’ Mr. Harrigan said. “And with a 1/8,000th of a second shutter speed, this would allow the bullet to travel approximately four-tenths of a foot while the shutter is open.”
Same procedure, but an AR-15 shoots a bullet faster than the speed for a generic bullet that I used, and the shutter speed was faster because it was a fancy NYT camera. 3200ft/s is almost exactly 1000m/s. The 1/8000s shutter speed is the fact that seems the most reliable, assuming that the photographer knew what setting their camera was on.
What I disagree with is that that streak is only 0.4 feet long. The average size of a human male head (brow to back of head) is about 20cm, or 8in per this image from Wikipedia. The streak from the bullet in the image is about twice the size of Trump’s head, or 40cm/16in. Due to projection effects, this is a lower bound on the path of the bullet during the 1/8000s exposure. This puts a lower bound on the speed of 3200m/s. This is over three times the velocity of an AR-15, at minimum. Either this was some super-high-powered rifle to fire the bullet that fast, the shutter speed is misquoted (or a misleading representation of the exposure time), or this isn’t picture of the bullet.
Thanks for providing the data to make me suspicious that this is an image of the bullet.
assuming that the photographer knew what setting their camera was on
The photographer would definitely know even if the camera was in a mode that selects the shutter speed automatically because it’s embedded in the image file’s metadata, which is shown in software used for image processing.
Note publishing and social media platforms usually strip metadata from images.
3200ft/s is muzzle velocity, that’s going to drop over the distance.
Plus the velocity depends on how hot the load is. An AR-15 can be as high as 3,200, but it can alao be lower.
https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/understanding-bullet-speed-how-distance-affects-armor
drop over the distance
Very true, but it was only 300".
Right, all more reasons the streak in the image is too fast to be an AR bullet.
What also doesn’t make sense is, if you roughly line up his arm position in the three NYT stills vs going frame by frame in the video/audio playback captured by the various news outlets, he raises his hand to his ear nearly 2/3rds a second after the audio recorded first shot, which, given bullet velocity and distance traveled was probably nearly a full second after the first shot (so a super slow reaction time, which normal nervous system reaction time is .150-.300/sec), since you’ll hear (and audio record) the shot roughly 5 frames after it’s passed by. He starts to lift his hand off the podium at nearly the same time the second shot estimates to be fired, and maybe 3-4 frames before the first posted NYT pic catches the bullet supposedly whizzing by.
