You want the actual answer? Because the Democratic Party has spent the last decade torpedoing non-establishment candidates. They killed off other candidates even running in this primary, and shut down several primaries entirely. Why would we waste our time?
And let’s be honest, let’s say that now the DNC appoints a new candidate, like they legally can do, it’s not going to be an AOC or someone even slightly to the left like Warren. It’s going to be another neoliberal like Buttigeig who will continue to Biden’s legacy of absolute mediocrity and screwing over the American people in the name of “freedom”.
This is 100% correct.
Small thing to add - we’re also in the midst of a devastating heat wave across most of the US at this moment. Taking to the streets isn’t exactly an accessible option right now, but anyone who has been remotely engaged in online discourse should be well aware of voters’ discontent with Biden and the status quo. They certainly won’t be discussing it on MSNBC however.
Your comment illustrates how our broken news system is the reason why four months is an insufficient runway for candidate policy clarity.
How do you consider Buttigieg a neoliberal? He wants to remove financial lobbying and stock trading permissions from Congress, create a nine Justice SCOTUS with three Democrat nominated Justices, three Republican, and three voted in by the previous six, his campaign raised $80M from small donations, and he endorsed the Green New Deal.
Just because he’s not as progressive as AOC or Bernie, doesn’t mean he’s not a big step in the right direction.
Thinking back to 2019 iircc the only Democrat candidate of the ±15 that was more conservative than Biden/Harris was Bloomberg. -I guess you could also argue Gabbard but she opted to go a different direction altogether. Regardless, a lot of Democrat voters seem to be projecting their values onto Biden without evaluating him as he is and always has been. He’s never been particularly progressive.
People forget that Biden was paired with Obama because Obama was seen as “too liberal” for “mainstream Democrats”. Biden was supposed to be a “correction” for Obama’s crazy ideas like the ACA (that was actually originally pushed for by, wait for it, Ronald fucking Reagan. The only difference was that Reagan didn’t propose any kind of public option, but that was the first thing Democrats killed in the name of “compromise”)
Yet Biden has been way more liberal than Obama.
Are you joking or not? I can’t tell.
He has. By literally every measure.
Ok. I’ll let you believe what you want to I guess. Evidently Obama actively supported multiple genocides instead of passively supporting one.
They didn’t call him Wall Street Pete and Wine Cave Pete for nothing…
I mean, they packed university campuses across the country and then the riot police went in. What kind of goldfish memory is this?
Gold
They’re asking why democrats aren’t in the streets though. Democrats were largely against those campus protests since they were perceived as harmful to Biden’s reelection chances.
DemocratsBiden supporters were largely against those campus protests since they were perceived as harmful to Biden’s reelection chances.Fair enough.
The last time we filled the streets we wanted police reform and didn’t get it.
The time before that it was to protest a war that happened anyway.
Not only did we not get police reform, we got a cop as a democratic vice president.
Yes, top cop Kamala. And now they’re threatening to roll with her if Biden has to step down. We’re doomed.
Because that’s not a thing and never has been? Find me any large scale protests in the history of the US where they were protesting a candidate prior to an election.
There’s not a single liberal or leftist (a few paid shill podcasters notwithstanding) in the whole country saying “Joe Biden’s brain is so soupy that Donald Trump would make a better president.” We’re saying Democrat leadership suppressed the primary to anoint an incumbent who’s going to lose. Democracy is on the line, and we’re running out of time to put our best foot forward. It’d be one thing if we were getting honest and reasonable arguments in response, but instead we’re getting gaslit (Only the elites want Biden to step aside?) and being told "get in line or you’re helping Trump somehow. " Meanwhile, Republicans are preparing to sue to keep Biden on the ballot in the event of a switch, because they know who they want to run against.
I hope I’m wrong and I hope he wins, since we’re probably stuck with him on the ticket. Given that he’s down 12 points from where he was in 2020 against Trump, where the swing states that gave Biden the election were only fractions of a percent in his favor, it’s gonna take some kind of miracle. We don’t have to be in this seemingly hopeless situation, but Biden’s ego and stubbornness seem like they’re gonna keep us here.
Historically protests are at the convention when the unpopular candidate is named.
Then the people who named the unpopular candidate blame the protests for the loss
I agree with this message, but the 1968 Democratic National Convention protests were in part due to the nomination of Hubert Humphrey.
Honestly. The number of people just on this platform saying “nobody thinks biden should drop, you’re wrong, you have no right to be upset with Biden’s team, and anyone who says otherwise is a bot” is seriously making me wonder if that narrative itself is the one being pushed by bots to sow discord between us. Who honestly jumps directly to “bot or stupid, no other possible explanation” when they disagree with an opinion so clearly held by a substantial number of people with nuanced opinions.
Anyone paying attention would see that Biden, having won on razor margins in 2020, on promises of being a 1-term president, could not afford to lose ANY ground in democratic turnout. Every feeler they put out is coming back showing we have lost that ground substantially and Biden is utterly unable to campaign to gain it back. Anyone can be not Trump, not everyone can run an energetic campaign on their own merits, and that is overwhelmingly what motivates people to turn out to vote.
It’s not a difficult connection to make and the assumption that bots would be the only ones to make an argument to replace Biden, after they ran a “primary” in which they hid Biden away from us and didn’t let even anyone remotely viable run, is just such an uninformed and arrogant viewpoint to witness in such droves that I hardly believe it’s real.
They don’t have or need good arguments, they just need to run out the clock until “It’s too late to change” becomes a legitimate argument.
Because, as the sitting President, the only person who can make that decision is Biden. It literally does not matter what anyone else says or does.
And Biden has shown complete contempt for public sentiment, not just on this topic but throughout his term.
I want to retire. I am sick of this country being run by workaholics. I want it to be run by people planning on not working themselves into the fucking grave, and expecting the rest of us to do so as well.
57 years is the oldest a candidate should be for a first-term presidency. 61 for a second term. If they still want to play politics, they can take a position in their local HOA.
I got work. Like 6 hours of meetings a day. With what energy would I use to ‘go to the streets’ to ask an old fuck who definitely can’t hear me to please retire. I don’t think he will hear me or care.
I’ll still vote for him I guess. Better Biden than the career criminal maniac.
Learned passivity?
It’s bloody hot outside
Because in no case where they switched candidates in the process did they win an election.
None. It’s certain defeat.
Now, if someone would tell these people trying to nullify the vote to kindly fuck off, that’d be great.
Wait a minute that seems like evidence the large majority of Democrats don’t feel he ‘must step aside!’ No, that can’t be it…maybe they’re just stupid?
It’s kinda funny (not the ‘haha’ funny) how hard the media and useful idiots around here are pushing the replacement angle, but have no coherent idea of who the replacement would be. It’s all “X or Y or Z could win!” but it’s all peoples names being thrown out with no indication that the people would even want to run .
It really just seems like a setup to undermine the democratic candidate, be it Biden or forcing through someone else at the last minute to give trump the ammo about how they weren’t even confident in their own person. But whether or not Biden gets replaced, the media handed the republicans plenty of narrative to attack the Democrat candidate no matter what choice is made.
Perhaps both
Because it’s hot outside.
Because most of the people elevating this narrative are right wing trolls and Russian trolls. Trump and Putin thrive on chaos and doubt. We are weaker as a country when we are fragmented and don’t stand firmly against a common evil
It’s a right wing battle cry to inspire division
Because this isn’t about a massive movement. This is about the roughly 100,000 people in battleground states who will decide the election.
There isn’t any alternative stepping up. Who do we rally behind as the replacement? No one?
