Not voting or voting third party for POTUS does nothing. It’s just pure vanity. Do what you want, I’m not really trying to change your mind, but it’s a virtually pointless move that doesnt make any sense under the current way we do things.
Not voting or voting third party for POTUS does nothing.
While that’s a popular and oft-repeated opinion, it’s heterodox among academic historians.
"Let a third party once demonstrate that votes are to be made by adopting a certain demand, then one of the other parties can be trusted to absorb it. Ultimately, if the demand has merit, it will probably be translated into law or practice by the major party that has taken it up…The chronic supporter of third party tickets need not worry, therefore, when he is told, as he surely will be told, that he is “throwing away his vote.” [A] glance through American history would seem to indicate that his kind of vote is after all probably he most powerful vote that has ever been cast."
John D. Hicks, Professor Emeritus of American history at Berkeley
When one of the two major parties becomes tired of losing elections, they adopt policies from a third party to attract their voters.
The impact of third parties on American politics extends far beyond their capacity to attract votes. Minor parties, historically, have been a source of important policy innovations. Women’s suffrage, the graduated income tax, and the direct election of senators, to name a few, were all issues that third parties espoused first.
So, it didn’t solve the problem? I’m not sure what you’re driving at here. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be multiple parties, I’m saying the vote during our presidential election, under our current system, is a strategic one, not one to throw away on a third party.
The point that the American historians quoted above are making is that if you enjoy certain policies, like being able to vote for senators, women’s rights, or progressive taxation, thank a third party voter.
I hope you vote for the candidate whom you feel best represents you and the interests you prioritize. I hope your interests and your morals come from a place of clarity that isn’t clouded by biased content designed to manipulate you.
It must be nice to be at such a level of privilege that you are able to withstand four years of a GOP government further restricting trans, queer and woman’s rights and right to exist.
I think I’m a bit confused, is there a radio button to fill in on the ballot that says "protest " and then when all votes are counted, we can see a report that says x for dude, y for other dude, and z for protest?
Yes, fairly close to that. 3rd party votes, uncommitted, and no-votes are all tracked, and people studying the (lack of) interest in the candidates take note.
I’m still not voting Biden
Trump thanks you for your service.
Oh? That’s odd, I’m not voting for him either.
Not voting or voting third party for POTUS does nothing. It’s just pure vanity. Do what you want, I’m not really trying to change your mind, but it’s a virtually pointless move that doesnt make any sense under the current way we do things.
While that’s a popular and oft-repeated opinion, it’s heterodox among academic historians.
"Let a third party once demonstrate that votes are to be made by adopting a certain demand, then one of the other parties can be trusted to absorb it. Ultimately, if the demand has merit, it will probably be translated into law or practice by the major party that has taken it up…The chronic supporter of third party tickets need not worry, therefore, when he is told, as he surely will be told, that he is “throwing away his vote.” [A] glance through American history would seem to indicate that his kind of vote is after all probably he most powerful vote that has ever been cast."
Except we have 2 parties still. How did voting third party in the past solve that problem? Proof is in the pudding.
When one of the two major parties becomes tired of losing elections, they adopt policies from a third party to attract their voters.
So, it didn’t solve the problem? I’m not sure what you’re driving at here. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be multiple parties, I’m saying the vote during our presidential election, under our current system, is a strategic one, not one to throw away on a third party.
It’s solved many problems.
The point that the American historians quoted above are making is that if you enjoy certain policies, like being able to vote for senators, women’s rights, or progressive taxation, thank a third party voter.
I hope you vote for the candidate whom you feel best represents you and the interests you prioritize. I hope your interests and your morals come from a place of clarity that isn’t clouded by biased content designed to manipulate you.
Which would be neither party
It must be nice to be at such a level of privilege that you are able to withstand four years of a GOP government further restricting trans, queer and woman’s rights and right to exist.
You mean all the things happening right now?
Using marginalized communities as human shields to defend shitty politicians is disgusting
Throwing them (including myself) to the wolves is worse.
Thanks. The president’s genocide and lies, as well as liberal media’s lies and genocide support, has given me moral clarity.
🤔 Trump sure won’t do that
That’s great to hear.
Doing everything you can to get more lies and more genocide will surely give you the moral high ground you’re looking for.
The one positive of a Trump presidency is that liberals will be allowed to come out against the genocide.
Almost time to come back from brunch
“Every one who disagrees with me is getting paid for it.”
Classic projection
hey lemmy.ml. Go figure.
Hasn’t .world banned a bunch of left-wing hosts? Are you proud of that or something?
Throwing your support behind the ‘teen wolf’ are ya?
Nope. No good options.
You may have done so already but you may want to see if the PSL is on the ballot where you are.
Yeah they’re on but if I’m protest voting I’ll be doing it in solidarity with Palestinian groups, which I’m assuming will be similar to primaries.
How are protest votes counted?
Like any other vote, by machine or hand depending on where you live.
I think I’m a bit confused, is there a radio button to fill in on the ballot that says "protest " and then when all votes are counted, we can see a report that says x for dude, y for other dude, and z for protest?
Yes, fairly close to that. 3rd party votes, uncommitted, and no-votes are all tracked, and people studying the (lack of) interest in the candidates take note.