Helen told the Post that President Joe Biden tried to call her, but she declined to speak to him since her husband ‘was a devout Republican, and he would not have wanted me to talk to him.’
But she added that she does not hold the current president responsible for what happened to her family.
‘I don’t have any ill will towards Joe Biden,’ she said. ‘I’m not one of those people that gets involved in politics. I support Trump, that’s who I’m voting for, but I don’t have ill-will towards Biden.’
Let’s see:
Decides who to ignore calls from based on her husband’s wishes
Claims to not be involved in politics, yet supports a certain candidate
Yep, that’s a garden-variety republican.
The important takeaway here is that Biden made an effort to reach out.
Ok my respect is quickly dropping for these buffoons caught in the crossfire. But it’s like interviewing an attendee from a nazi rally, what should I expect? Critical thinking? Morals? Hah!
“devout Republican” haha… They’re a religious cult.
It’s a little more complicated for me considering my family once was Republican during Bush’s first term. Rural, Appalachian, Pennsylvanian. I know some of these people most likely. Dumb people who know no better. Manipulated by rich interests. Feeling many pressures no doubt but too uninformed to point the finger at the right problem.
They Thought Were Free is a great book that explores this ignorance endemic in the Third Reich.
Ok, I get that you have a strong desire to humanize them. But humanizing someone doesn’t mean you automatically respect them, other than affording them the basic level you’d give any other semi-sentient being. What is there to respect in people who cheer on an addlepated, narcissistic, fascist manbaby?
Yeah I’ll admit respect probably wasn’t the best choice for words, but as a father I respected his shielding his family from bullets, which is probably what led to use of that word.
Sadly, she won’t realize shit. These people don’t have revelations about who they support politically. They bury their heads in the sand eternally. I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we’ve ever had.
I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we’ve ever had.
Honest question: do those folks say that because of how that campaign and presidency made them feel at the time, or is it honestly based in policy, politics, or something else tangible? Thank you.
Honestly, it’s a mixed bag of all three. For some, the nostalgia of that time is very strong and for others they feel like GWB embodied the best of the Republican party(which says so much about the Republican party). And some are just bullshit contrarians who want to shut the people up who tout Obama and Biden’s accomplishments.
Americans–especially those older–tend to hold favorable views of past presidents even if they didn’t approve of them in office. W had a majority favorable opinion even among Democrats in 2018, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the number were higher now.
Following simple directions
Getting off stage
Acknowledging his staff was in danger
Getting the fuck away from danger
Asking about anyone else being injured
Leaving the scene
You know…NORMAL FUCKING SHIT
But no, he needed to stand on stage AND at his get away vehicle to throw his fist up like he personally took down the gunmen.
I cringed watching the SS try to get him to safety and he refused. I was just hoping no one else was going to get shot while he tried to be some kind of “hero”.
I think it’s also important to note that we didn’t hear about this from Biden’s camp. They did their job cause it was the right thing to do, not for some publicity stunt.
“Devout Republican” is also pretty telling. These people aren’t politically Conservative, they are religiously Republican. They worship their party and its leaders, and just like religion, they never require evidence for anything they believe.
Conservatism is not an ideology for smart people or critical thinkers.
You can’t discount the selfish and hateful as stupid as even the most vile people can be cunning. I’d agree that the median conservative would be less intelligent than the median liberal, but that discludes the folks looking to take from others their money, freedom, and time in order to enrich themselves monetarily or psychologically. Not everything can be Hanlon’s razor’d, sometimes people just enjoy sucking.
Your original point is a straw man fallacy, and thus deserves no response. Get your facts straight before you give us any more of this vitriolic attitude please.
If you could stop being a prick for 10 seconds you might notice that I already did respond to your original point.
How can your expect anyone to take your argument seriously when you mix up the wife of a murder victim with the mother of a murderer and then respond by being a defensive asshole when corrected?
He has made others. MANY others that are equally as dumb. You’ll have to check the mod logs to see them- as they’ve been removed because they’re just that fucking stupid.
So you have time to make up shit about illegal immigrant mass murders but you can’t respond to my receipts of the Heritage Foundation call to hatred when you first got on the Lemmy bloc? Lemmy dont forget anything but meme reposts, son. Where’s them links on those illegal immigrant murder victims not getting a call from Biden? I want them.
Let’s see:
Decides who to ignore calls from based on her husband’s wishes
Claims to not be involved in politics, yet supports a certain candidate
Yep, that’s a garden-variety republican.
The important takeaway here is that Biden made an effort to reach out.
Ok my respect is quickly dropping for these buffoons caught in the crossfire. But it’s like interviewing an attendee from a nazi rally, what should I expect? Critical thinking? Morals? Hah!
“devout Republican” haha… They’re a religious cult.
Why would you have any respect for Trump supporters going to a Trump rally? Just because they were unlucky? They’re still shitty people.
It’s a little more complicated for me considering my family once was Republican during Bush’s first term. Rural, Appalachian, Pennsylvanian. I know some of these people most likely. Dumb people who know no better. Manipulated by rich interests. Feeling many pressures no doubt but too uninformed to point the finger at the right problem.
They Thought Were Free is a great book that explores this ignorance endemic in the Third Reich.
Ok, I get that you have a strong desire to humanize them. But humanizing someone doesn’t mean you automatically respect them, other than affording them the basic level you’d give any other semi-sentient being. What is there to respect in people who cheer on an addlepated, narcissistic, fascist manbaby?
Yeah I’ll admit respect probably wasn’t the best choice for words, but as a father I respected his shielding his family from bullets, which is probably what led to use of that word.
Right…because you’re so great at critical thinking
I’m not a Trump supporter, so yes, definitely a step above.
Granted the bar is on the floor but still.
What about their comment lacked critical thinking?
The baseless accusation of a lack of critical thinking clearly shows a lack of critical thinking.
People using devout to describe their political views unironically is the scariest thing I’ve read today.
I had the same thought. It’s not a sports team and not a religion. But man, some people treat it like that.
Conservatism is entirely an exercise in belief. Just like religion, if you apply logic to it, it falls apart.
One day she’ll realize that after her husband was killed, the candidate she supports cared more about his shoes than about him.
Sadly, she won’t realize shit. These people don’t have revelations about who they support politically. They bury their heads in the sand eternally. I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we’ve ever had.
Honest question: do those folks say that because of how that campaign and presidency made them feel at the time, or is it honestly based in policy, politics, or something else tangible? Thank you.
Honestly, it’s a mixed bag of all three. For some, the nostalgia of that time is very strong and for others they feel like GWB embodied the best of the Republican party(which says so much about the Republican party). And some are just bullshit contrarians who want to shut the people up who tout Obama and Biden’s accomplishments.
Thanks for the insightful reply. I appreciate it.
Americans–especially those older–tend to hold favorable views of past presidents even if they didn’t approve of them in office. W had a majority favorable opinion even among Democrats in 2018, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the number were higher now.
I’m glad I’m not the only one repeating this.
He was more concerned about his shoes than:
Following simple directions Getting off stage Acknowledging his staff was in danger Getting the fuck away from danger Asking about anyone else being injured Leaving the scene
You know…NORMAL FUCKING SHIT
But no, he needed to stand on stage AND at his get away vehicle to throw his fist up like he personally took down the gunmen.
I cringed watching the SS try to get him to safety and he refused. I was just hoping no one else was going to get shot while he tried to be some kind of “hero”.
Doubtful.
Why am I getting downvoted?
People think this lady is smart enough to engage in critical thinking later, despite what we’ve seen from her?
I think it’s also important to note that we didn’t hear about this from Biden’s camp. They did their job cause it was the right thing to do, not for some publicity stunt.
“Devout Republican” is also pretty telling. These people aren’t politically Conservative, they are religiously Republican. They worship their party and its leaders, and just like religion, they never require evidence for anything they believe.
Conservatism is not an ideology for smart people or critical thinkers.
You can’t discount the selfish and hateful as stupid as even the most vile people can be cunning. I’d agree that the median conservative would be less intelligent than the median liberal, but that discludes the folks looking to take from others their money, freedom, and time in order to enrich themselves monetarily or psychologically. Not everything can be Hanlon’s razor’d, sometimes people just enjoy sucking.
Just as the republicans want how women should vote?
Biden is a better man than Trump will ever be even with half his brain turned to jelly
Which brain is jelly in this equation?
Yes
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She’s the husband of someone killed who was in the crowd…
I see where you’re coming from, but you got a lot of facts wrong in your comment.
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Your original point is a straw man fallacy, and thus deserves no response. Get your facts straight before you give us any more of this vitriolic attitude please.
If you could stop being a prick for 10 seconds you might notice that I already did respond to your original point.
How can your expect anyone to take your argument seriously when you mix up the wife of a murder victim with the mother of a murderer and then respond by being a defensive asshole when corrected?
It’s entirely possible that one day someone on the internet might say something like, “oops, I got that wrong, my bad” but today is not that day.
Better to just act like a brat.
This was the rallygoer, not the shooter. There were two deaths at that event.
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You are accusing the widow of a rallygoer who shielded his family from harm of having a would-be assassin son. You have your facts mixed up.
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You deserve an award for the stupidest comment of the day
To be fair, it’s probably not even their stupidest comment of the day.
He has made others. MANY others that are equally as dumb. You’ll have to check the mod logs to see them- as they’ve been removed because they’re just that fucking stupid.
Removed, misinformation. Temp banned for multiple offenses.
So you have time to make up shit about illegal immigrant mass murders but you can’t respond to my receipts of the Heritage Foundation call to hatred when you first got on the Lemmy bloc? Lemmy dont forget anything but meme reposts, son. Where’s them links on those illegal immigrant murder victims not getting a call from Biden? I want them.
You’re aware that the first illegal immigrants on this land were white, right?