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    If this horror continues until January, Gaza is already gone. I don’t even know what the fuck they would do if it stops today. He had the chance to be better and he fucked it up. I actually believed he would be better than this.

    Obligatory yes you should still vote for Biden because Trump is obviously worse and undoubtedly the West Bank would be next. Not to mention project 2025. But “horrific” policy is not the best selling point, even when pitted against “even worse” policy. American politics is truly broken.

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    Oh no! The fascists and capitalists that run society have given us the two worst choices to vote for! You better pick one of them to keep the system happy, and don’t consider voting for a third party…OR ELSE!

    Defeat genocidejoe. Vote pirate. Or West.

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          Accelerationists are far worse than MAGA. Because MAGA can claim ignorance.

          You are threatening to purposely fuck up America unless your demands are heeded.

          It’s fucking extortion.

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            America is already fucked up. The people who don’t believe so are deluded or benefiting from the situation.

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              So you’re an admitted troll here to disrupt an election… got it.

              That’s all I needed.

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                  And what is the truth exactly? That you won’t cop to the fact that while you claim to care about genocide, you are entirely unwilling to stop it from getting exponentially worse?

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        There will always be a Boogeyman to fear, Trump is the current one. That’s how the oligarchy stays in power

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      ROFL… I was young and idealistic once as well. The difference is, I was afforded the time to be ignorant.

      You aren’t.

      Pay attention. A lot is at stake here.

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        Keep voting for the “lesser evil”! I’m sure your descendants will think you were super intelligent and well informed!

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          …. Said the genius that thinks NOT doing something will bring change.

          Listen up,

          Someone is going to get elected whether you like it or not. By now you should probably know what Trump will do to the LGBTQ+, to women, to anyone that stands against the Christian ideology. Which pretty much includes everyone you know I would imagine.

          So go ahead and admit right now that you either don’t give a fuck at all about anyone that will be hurt if drum wins,

          Or admit you’re here in bad faith and go away.

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        Rumors are that America is a Democracy where more than two parties are allowed to run. Though many appear to disagree with that notion.

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            Democrats blame the Greens.

            Republicans blame Libertarians.

            Instead of trying to blame alternatives for losing the election they could try to win over voters. But they don’t seem very interested in that. Israel is a lot more appealing. And hey, even if the Democrats lose they’ll have made israel very happy so they can be sure to get more AIPAC “donations” next elections.

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              This election isn’t about picking favorites. We are all fully aware that Trump will cause massive devastation to our nation as well as allow Putin, Xi, and Netanyahu to take what they want without resistance. Abstaining or voting third-party is refusing to stand in Trump’s way.

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                Biden is already giving away America to Netanyahu. If you are concerned about foreign actors I would suggest being concerned about AIPAC.

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                  We agree that Biden isn’t great for Palestine, but he is absolutely better than Trump.

                  Trump noted, “They’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

                  “And the other thing is I hate, they put out tapes all the time. Every night, they’re releasing tapes of a building falling down. They shouldn’t be releasing tapes like that. They’re doing, that’s why they’re losing the PR war. They, Israel is absolutely losing the PR war,” Trump said.

                  https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html

                  Trump also fully supports Israel’s expansion. He repealed the law preventing Israeli settlements on Palestinian land that Biden has since reinstated.

                  Netanyahu was so pleased, he named a settlement after him.

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48656431

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    Not endorsing GOP but Pakistan looking at this article is not happy

    although tbf they’re in south asia not the middle east

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    Democrats dont have a better choice because they never hold their politicians accountable. If they did someone like Biden would have never been their nominee.

    The rest of us choose not to participate in electoral politics because our voices do not matter to them, they only answer to the donor class.

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      So instead of helping keep democracy from crumbling to the ground… you’re just going to step aside because you don’t feel listened to?

      Dude… you’re not the only one in the country. It’s virtually impossible for a sitting president to make even half of the country happy with their policy…

      Maybe look up what Biden has done just over the past four years compared to the previous 4. Then read up on Project 2025. Then have some responsibly to those that live on your country that are quite possibly going to lose only their rights as human beings if they’re lucky.

      This isn’t a fucking joke man. Vote and then spend the next four years actually doing the work it takes to make the change you want. I even give you a bit of advice…

      It’ll take a lot more than whining on the internet. It’s going to be hard work. But if you do it right, 2028 could be something to look forward to.

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        Vote and then spend the next four years actually doing the work it takes to make the change you want

        Take a wild guess how many decades I’ve heard versions of this

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          I don’t care how many decades you’ve heard it. I’m 52 years old and STILL doing my part to stop America from being overthrown by a traitor. What I care about is the work done to stop it from happening. Because It takes FAR more than whining online every four years.

          And this happens like clockwork… EVERY FOUR YEARS.

          Then everyone disappears and rerolls as victims of their own irresponsibility. Every four years.

          So don’t tell me how many decades you’ve heard versions of this.

          DO THE WORK.

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            I am doing the work by refusing to participate in elections that we have zero impact on. Neither right wing fascist represents me or the people in my circles.

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              So by not voting you’re admitting that you don’t give a shit about Palestine. Because it’s well known fact that Trump intents to do much worse and he’s not even trying to hide it. While Biden may not be doing enough, he’s certainly doing more than what will happen…

              So since it’s not about Palestine, what exactly is your angle?

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                Biden hasnt done shit but get more of them killed. Hollow fucking plalitiudes while trying to save his ass isn’t ‘more than what will happen’