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Cake day: June 13th, 2023

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  • “I’m not going to comment on private conversations, but I truly believe that President Joe Biden has been a transformational president whose first-term accomplishments are nothing short of historic. He has overseen record breaking job growth and the passage of major pieces of progressive legislation that will change the face of our economy for generations to come, all while guiding us through a pandemic and managing several international conflicts. President Biden stated this morning that he will continue to be our nominee for president and I strongly support him. Moreover, if we’re going to defeat Donald Trump in November we must move past the distractions and put the focus of this election squarely where it belongs: on Donald Trump and his extreme Project 2025 agenda.”

    That’s Nadler’s statement. Now look at AOC’s:

    “I have spoken to the president over the weekend. I have spoken with him extensively,” Ocasio-Cortez told reporters outside the Capitol on Monday evening. “He made clear then — and he has made clear since — that he is in this race.” “The matter is closed,” she continued. “He had reiterated that this morning. He has reiterated that to the public. Joe Biden is our nominee. He is not leaving this race. He is in this race, and I support him.”

    Now don’t get me wrong, it’s possible that he made some kind of compelling reelection case in private that these folks just couldn’t disagree with, but take a look at the verbiage. They’re not saying “Biden is going to win” or “I’m excited to vote for Joe Biden”. They’re not actually saying anything about November except that Trump must be defeated. Everything they’re saying is in present tense and is really just an observation of current reality:

    He will continue to be our nominee

    I strongly support him

    He is in this race

    Joe Biden is our nominee

    He is not leaving this race

    He is in this race

    I support him

    All of that sounds weirdly noncommital, almost as if they’ve been told something behind the scenes that they’re not allowed to tell us yet. All of it would still be true even if they were planning to replace him. The only part that might not work like that is “he is not leaving this race”, but it could still mean, “he is not leaving this race right now”.

    It feels like Biden’s camp came out and said, “Look guys, there’s this thing we’re working on, and it’s going to be big, but we need you to stay the course. Act like nothing’s happening.” Is anyone else sensing that? It looks real fucking suspicious to me.













  • As you suggest it’s a regulatory problem. There was a recent kerfuffle involving the Ohio ballot, which was solved by putting Biden/Harris on the ballot before they are officially nominated. So any changes made at the Democratic convention will come too late to change the Ohio ballot.

    …nnnnno. That’s not what’s happening in Ohio. From your article:

    President Joe Biden will be formally nominated as the Democratic presidential nominee through a virtual roll call ahead of the party’s official convention in Chicago in August

    The Democratic National Convention, where the president would otherwise be formally nominated, comes after Ohio’s ballot deadline of Aug. 7. The party’s convention is scheduled for Aug. 19-22.

    I really hate to repeat myself because it seems like you’re engaging sincerely and at least trying to support your argument, but there are currently no ballots that have been formalized in the entire country. Biden and Harris have not been put on the ballot before they’re nominated, they’re being nominated before the ballot access deadline in Ohio. So quite simply, as long as the Democrats nominate any US-born person older than 35, that person’s name will appear on the Ohio ballot. You have it quite literally backwards.


  • partly because her name can’t be taken off the general ballot in multiple states

    Again, where is your proof of this? Ballots haven’t been finalized anywhere in the country, as Biden isn’t even officially the nominee yet. You keep saying these things as if they’re set in stone, but from what I can tell they’re not. Do you have proof that ballots have been printed before the convention, or that states have closed the registration window for running mates before closing the registration window for candidates?

    Note: I agree with the rest of what you said, for the most part.






  • Yes, and the rules were voted on by party members before the primary started. They’re now in place, and they’re obligated to respect them until this process plays out. Same thing happened in 2016. Say what you will about whether the rules were “fair” or not, they were agreed upon before Iowa, and they were respected through the Convention.

    The way you use “kneecap progressives” tells me you’re conflating DNC primary rules and campaign finance. The two are not the same thing. They could do to Biden what they did to Bernie and blast the airwaves with damaging, misleading attacks, but none of that would fundamentally change the fact that the primary rules were agreed upon and are immutable until the Convention comes to a close.

    And to reiterate, it’s not “principles” that are holding them back. It’s a contractual obligation whose violation would open them up to civil litigation. Voters picked delegates and they’re obligated to respect the voters who selected them. The DNC can’t just tell them to take a hike.

    But Biden can.

    edit: AP just put out a piece that confirms what I’ve been saying. They’d be sued into oblivion if they usurped the process right now. The ball is very much in Biden’s court.



  • He absolutely can be replaced at this stage, and by nearly anyone.

    Only if they can convince him to step aside and let someone else run. At this point the voters have selected 3,904 delegates who are contractually obligated to cast a vote for him at the Convention. If the delegates somehow simply ignored the primaries, they’d be quite literally ignoring the will of their voters and taking matters into their own hands. It’s alarming how many on the left (who presumably had a problem with the DNC’s treatment of Bernie in 2016) are cheering for the DNC to heavily influence the primary process again. I don’t necessarily disagree that something drastic needs to be negotiated, but the irony of this is really hard to ignore.