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mediaDNC is once again repeating the mistakes of 2016Pokemon go to the polls? No. This time we need you to walk tuah polling place and vote on that thang.
Fucking hell I love the “walk tuah poll.” Damn, I wish I was running my own campaign to use that on right now. I wouldn’t hesitate to use it.
How high are you right now?
Crazy how systems are in place to commodify the meme within a couple weeks. Already merchandise? Damn this sucks now.
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Just the pundit class? 🤨
Welcome to the pundit class
Because they probably watched the same disaster of a debate that I did.
Because it drives ratings and all the dumbasses who pick it up and run with it are the same ones who followed “this is how Bernie can still win.” I’ve already seen multiple people say “we could have AOC!” as if that is at all realistic. And although she is the most “out there” fan fic pick there are still plenty of others who would immediately be torn apart.
Choosing a different horse at this point leads to a Mondale style wipeout.
Funny how everyone latches onto “generic democrat polls better” polls that would IMMEDIATELY shift as soon Biden drops and they come in.
It would:
- signal Democrats have no idea what they’re doing
- Put out the feeling they’re terrified
- Open up a new candidate to attacks “they’re too left, they’re too soft on crime, they’re …”
- Give up the incumbency advantage and it IS an advantage.
Why anyone is still on this “drop out Biden” crap is beyond me. His interview was fine (notice how no one is bringing that up in comparison to one bad debate). Trump has MULTIPLE times looked confused and out of it on this campaign trail let alone all the years before (notice how no one brings that up.) Project 2025 should scare the living daylights out of anyone- Republican, Democrat, or independent and especially in light of the relatively progressive and largely relaxed time of Biden’s admin…
To me this is nothing but a Republican plan come to fruition by latching on whatever they could and a bunch of dummies running with it. And by dummies I mean people who don’t like Biden and see this as their perfect chance to drop him, even if their preferred younger candidate gets absolutely stomped in the election. They’d rather have “their way” even if it means giving up the presidency.
Hold the line- Biden will be fine.
For me it was seeing a news article montage showing literally the exact same headlines from 2016 about Hillary Clinton. It’s just the same play from a tired playbook.
How did Hillary do in the outcome of 2016 election btw?
To me this is nothing but a Republican plan come to fruition by latching on whatever they could and a bunch of dummies running with it.
That’s a pretty good summary of most of the anti-Biden rhetoric this go around. It seems like the GOFascists know that trump is going to struggle and they’re latching on to anything to keep bad Biden news on everyone’s mind and not Trump’s dementia riddled asinine word vomit.
Sad to see how many “leftists” are doing their best to get republicans elected. Be it bad faith discussions or just accelerationist ideology, it sounds the same on the outside.
It’s been 4 years of “leftists” polling for Trump
As a Republican, I second this opinion: /s
Despite Trump’s myriad legal issues and questions surrounding his own temperament and fitness for office, Biden’s struggles have been a boon for the ex-president’s campaign. And his allies want to keep Biden on the ballot in a number of states — as they aim to retain an advantage in a race that at the moment leans in their favor.
And Republicans are thrilled that the heat — for now — is off Trump.
But Trump’s conservative allies have long eyed ballot rules under a scenario in which Biden could potentially leave the race, and they are preemptively floating legal action to keep the president on statewide ballots should he step aside as the Democratic nominee, according to The Washington Post.
So, by all means, keep him
It is very clear that the people who oppose Trump fall into one of two camps right now:
Those who watched the debate and his ABC interview, and those who did not.
If you watched, you’re alarmed.
If not, you are feeling like this alarm is better worth ignored. And you should go watch the debate and interview.
Smerconish’s piece on it was exactly it. https://youtu.be/CgZRz2vdnp8
Watched every minute and I’m alarmed. Still not calling for Biden to drop out.
This makes Trump happy
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“We definitely want the dementia patient,” a source close to Trump told NOTUS. “They made their bed; they get to sleep in it.”
https://www.notus.org/2024-election/biden-heritage-republicans
It’s silly to talk about a “pundit class”. It’s not like they’re a group with any coherent ideas, much less any sort of persistent group loyalty. They’re just people with opinions and a platform.
This article tries to make it sound like he’s a really popular candidate and there’s some shady group of kingmakers trying to block him.
The main reason that people are pushing for him to step aside is that they don’t believe he can beat Trump. It’s not that people were grumpy about a raspy voice. There was already a lot of suspicion that he’s going senile. He got the benefit of the doubt and the debate was his chance to prove the doubters wrong. Instead he confirmed their deepest fears. Since then, he’s provided a steady stream of examples of his diminishing mental capacity.
A formal cognitive assessment might lay those fears to rest but, at this point, it’s unlikely. For many people, the conclusion is clear; the evidence is in and he forgets what he’s talking about mid-sentence. Many people look at the polling numbers around that just want someone who has a chance of beating Trump.
Don’t disagree, but also curious why the same pundits aren’t ripping apart Trump’s senility? 30 seconds of watching a Daily Show weekly roundup will provide COUNTLESS examples of Trump rambling endlessly and forgetting what he was even talking about. Just because it wasn’t as stark at the debate doesn’t’ mean it isn’t happening. I’d also imagine that Trump was probably coked out of his mind at the debate after he spent weeks leading up to it claiming Biden would be on drugs. He has a well-documented history of projecting whatever he’s doing wrong on his opposition.
Because Trump’s senility doesn’t matter; Republicans are going to vote for him regardless
It’s because we’re talking about two entirely different groups of people.
More and more Democrats are calling for Biden to withdraw because they don’t believe he can beat Trump.
Republicans are happy to stick with Trump because they’re fairly sure he can trounce Biden.
Those articles are out there.
The key differences are Trump is the popular candidate. He is who the GOP electorate wants and who the GOP runs on.
Biden is not a popular candidate and not who the Democratic party electorate necessarily wants: instead his whole candidacy and presidency has solely been not being Trump. This condition is fully transferrable to any candidate with support of the party.
So the ramifications and implications are wildly different.
Biden is not a popular candidate and not who the Democratic party electorate necessarily wants: instead his whole candidacy and presidency has solely been not being Trump. This condition is fully transferrable to any candidate with support of the party.
Biden may not be a popular candidate on Lemmy, but he absolutely was prior to that debate showing with the general public. It turns out moderates and independents make up a large portion of the voting block and they aren’t all drooling at the prospects of Bernie Sanders. They WANT a boring president.
They want a competent president. Biden has been showing these signs for quite some time to a lot of resistance towards anyone willing to acknowledge it. But now? Shit I’ve seen hard leftists express willingness to support Kamala Harris so I think people are mostly on board for not-Biden in general.
he absolutely was prior to that debate showing with the general public
Only 25% of Democrats wanted him to run, he is not a popular candidate
My guess is - people have heard so many articles about Trump fucking up that they don’t get clicks any more. Tearing into Biden is much more lucrative, plus people then argue about it in comments (just look around here) further driving engagement.
the fact we should even need a cognitive test is Ludacris. age limits for presidential and high court positions. past retirement age? gtfo
past retirement age? gtfo
That has the unintended consequence of encouraging them to raise the retirement age.
Better plan: base it on lifespan, cap it at some percentage of the average age of death. They want to stay in office longer? Gonna have to raise the average lifespan. Public healthcare would probably get them the biggest bang for their buck
I’m ok with that too.
I wouldn’t base it on lifespan because keeping people alive longer doesn’t necessarily require them to be able to work longer.
Look who pays their bills.
It’s clearly because the evil media is out to get Perfect Young Biden. There can be no other possible explanation.
What, you don’t like his new spray tan? /s
Wow, this is written by one truly oblivious journalist
Because Biden is a distasteful choice for president. That being said, there are no other strong options right now so we’re stuck with it.
there are no other strong options right now
How so? The Rest is Politics identified a few candidates who are more than capable, Gavin Newsom among them.
Sadly, I suspect the average voter isn’t really aware of who Newsom is. People are really disconnected from anything but the biggest headlines.
Every voting person would know within a week if Biden stepped down and gave 1/4th the support to the new candidate what he gives to Israel’s far right wing government.
My naive theory is that Biden plans to drop out as late as possible so that he can take a media beating from the Republicunts and protect the real DNC nominee.
Yeah, I can’t see that helping. You want someone to have as much coverage as possible.
When the DNC “upset” happens, there will be coverage. All the people with half a brain will be relieved and vote blue. Fox will fire up propaganda, but it can’t compare to years of “Biden bad”
Holy fuck I hope so. I’m voting for whoever is most likely to beat Trump but I really don’t want to vote for this ticket.
Exactly! Blue no matter who (but barely on Biden)
That would be funny as shit, but like basically everything Dark Brandon adjacent I fear it is more of a cope than reality.
Can he do that after arresting supreme court judges? After all, he’s got presidential immunity.
Yeah, he should drop out the day of the election and put forth Kamala, so no one knows who they’re voting for. /s
Interesting title. I had the impression that so many pundits sought to prop him up.
It’s not quite the same as 2016 because then, we had no incumbent President running. It was a blank slate on both sides.
Because it worked so well for Humphrey in his 1968 win.
Or they’re Republicans and dirty pool is okay by them.
Because he’s a horrible candidate and I think there’s a good chance he loses to trump. It’s terrifying. If he loses fuck all of you.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
They have become a stampeding herd producing an avalanche of stories suggesting Biden is unfit, will lose and should go away, at a point in the campaign in which replacing him would likely be somewhere between extremely difficult and utterly catastrophic.
Not to be outdone, the New Yorker’s editor-in-chief declared that Biden not going away “would be an act not only of self-delusion but of national endangerment” and had a staff writer suggest that Democrats should use the never-before-deployed 25th amendment.
It’s a dogpile and a panic, and there is no one more unable to understand their own emotional life, biases and motives than people who are utterly convinced of their own ironclad rationality and objectivity, AKA most of these pundits.
The extremist US supreme court justices he selected during his last presidential term themselves staged a coup this very Monday, overthrowing the US constitution itself and the principle that no one is above the law to make presidents into kings, just after legalizing bribery of officials, and dismantling the regulatory state by throwing out the Chevron deference.
I get that writing about the monstrosity that is Trump faces the problem that it’s not news; he’s been a monster spouting lurid nonsense all his life (but his political crimes are recent, and his free-associating public soliloquies on sharks, batteries, toilets, water flow and Hannibal Lector, among other topics, are genuinely demented).
But the shocking supreme court decisions this summer and the looming threat of authoritarianism have gotten little ink and air, compared to the hue and cry about Biden’s competence.
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