• inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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    “If someone is going to try and blackmail me with advertising? Blackmail me with money? Go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? Hey Bob, if you’re in the audience. That’s how I feel, don’t advertise.

    • Elon, 2023
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      Careful, you might convince Tesla shareholders to fork over a few more billion to keep the big brained genius motivated.

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        “Give me 60 billions this year, or the Tesla stock will lose even of more of its price next year!” – Elon, probably.

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        If the market were rational that would have been the end of Tesla. It takes some extreme brainletry to turn a huge market advantage into actively losing ground to new entrants. And he is still at it. Being a dimwitted Nazi on Twitter is his top priority. Tesla sales will continue to spiral down the drain.

        (Yes, if the market were rational the end might have come sooner, but certainly giving billions to a brainlet actively sabotaging the company should end it.)

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          Remember he is exceedingly wealthy, so he can buy Tesla stock through third parties to prop the price up without alarming investors. No, it’s not legal, but we all know the man doesn’t give a shit about the law.

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        What’s it say? Go find yourself? Go Fill yourself? IDK is this some game you Americans have where you have to guess the word, because the amount of pearl clutching is just too insane in America?

        Ah yes that’s the amazing freedom of speech Americans are so proud of, except they don’t actually have it, they are just indoctrinated to think so.

        My god American regulation is so idiotic sometimes!!!

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          Welcome to the hypocritical world of Puritan culture.

          Some of the earliest British settlers in the US were so extremist that the Church of England kicked them out after they tried to assassinate the king and replace him with a puppet of their own to force their beliefs on the rest of the country.

          It was partly these crazies that started the whole sex and bodies=bad and shameful thing in the US that advertisers still believe in today. And swearing is yet another of those weird things. But sex sells, so it’s okay to imply it as long as it’s selling a product and no other time.

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          You think that’s bad, get this. In most US states (47), public school students are required by law to recite the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag of the United States once per school day, though…for most of those states…students may opt themselves out.

          However, in four states (Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Utah), students may not opt themselves out. The school must receive a written statement from a parent or guardian in order to be exempt.

          I have taught in Texas public schools since 2005, and I brought this up with an attorney for the teacher organization I joined (not a union as Texas bans collective bargaining for state employees, so our dues are really not much more than lawsuit insurance). He told me that, in the eyes of the state courts, children under the age of eighteen not being yet adults do not enjoy the same right to freedom of speech that adults do. Hence, in the eyes of the courts, a school district would be within their rights to fire a teacher who does not do their part to ensure all students under their purview recite the Pledge during the time it is spoken over the school’s PA system (and the Pledge to the Texas state flag, also mandatory), 1st Amendment be damned.

          Thankfully, I got a gig teaching in Oregon next year, so I am heading northwest (through the also miserable states of Utah and Idaho unfortunately) and never looking back.

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          There’s no regulation, we can and do say fuck without any problem. Some people prefer not to swear either for personal, social, or religious reasons. They chose to self censor not because they had to but because they wanted to. You’re reading an awful fucking lot into a random ass image some anonymous user posted in a comment.

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          except they don’t actually have it, they are just indoctrinated to think so.

          What are we not allowed to say, exactly?

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        Someone needs to make a drawing of it because when he originally said it he opened his mouth wide and through his head back like was a literal puppet

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      Wowow! That was so long ago! Literally dozens of weeks ago! I’m sure this full-blown narcissist has seen the error of his ways and changed his mind. Surely.

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      Musk sheepishly suggested that he didn’t mean “advertisers as a whole.”

      “Advertisers have a right to appear next to content that they find compatible with their brands,” he told ad giant WPP CEO Mark Read during an interview on Wednesday. “What is not cool is insisting that there can be no content that they disagree with on the platform.”

      How is that “not cool?” I don’t understand how he can possibly object to a company spending their advertising dollars wherever they damn well choose to. He repeatedly makes it clear that he feels entitled to their budgets. There is zero basis for that. I truly cannot fathom how he can be so dense about this.

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        He can object because he’s decided that’s what is right. Literally nothing else matters.

        The piece of shit that used to own my company is like this. His decision is correct and gospel, and if you don’t agree or if it’s provably false you are wrong. And it’s your fault you are wrong, because he has decided it to be correct.

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          Right but the bubble of rightness you speak of is usually only assumed to include the company staff. Really powerful CEOs have their board inside the bubble too, or even public investors. But Elon thinks the customers work for him too. That’s really beyond the pale.

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            No argument here. Just highlighting the absolutely insane mindset of business owners/CEOs at all scales.

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      Yes. Elon should approach his advertisers on bended knee – after changing Twitter back to Twitter, and creating a proper moderation system that filters out neonazis and Russian AI Trump-bots.

      Oh, George Washington rode the waves
      Abe Lincoln wore his hat with praise
      Thomas Jefferson, the sandy king, and
      Teddy Roosevelt, the beach-hiking thing
      Barrack Obama, surfing gracefully
      Historical presidents at the sea!
      – @hisvault.eth

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      He just got approved for that big $40+ billion compensation package from Tesla so he’s got lots to work with.

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        A single billion is an obscene amount of money for an individual, I can’t fathom how anyone can be worth/earn a billion in a couple of years.

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        To me it’s mental that stock holders would approve such package when company itself for its entire existence had income that is smaller than his “bonus”. Some people are downright stupid.

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        What’s absolutely insane to me, is that other CEOs think that’s fair and fine and that Elon is very smart and not a con artist? No wonder Elizabeth Holmes got so far. It’s just so obvious he’s not above board

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          Most CEOs are also conmen and not any smarter. It’s mostly just a nepotism racket at the executive level.

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    • Tells customers to go fuck themselves
    • They leave
    • They stop paying for advertisement
    • Twitter/X makes no money from advertisement

    Elon:

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    “I do shoot myself in the foot from time to time, but at least you know it is genuine, not from the PR department,” he admitted.

    He’s been brainwashed by his fans if he thinks that somehow makes it better.

    Like, authenticy is good for good things, but it makes shitty things even shittier. It’s not a value that’s always good in every context. And the worst thing he could be doing is doubling down on his opinions and policy.

    If he left the company is the only way this would help, he wouldn’t even be a fall guy because most of this is entirely his fault

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      Yeah I robbed that gas station but at least some crime boss didn’t make me do it. It was genuine so you should forgive me

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      Idk, I’d prefer if CEOs were more transparent and why mistakes happened instead of the generic PR nonsense of: “We messed up, and we’re sorry. We’re taking time to review what happened to make sure it never happens again.” That kind of statement only matters if there’s some way for the public to know what happened and verify that it actually won’t happen again.

      That’s not what we’re getting from Elon, so screw him, but I just figured I’d point out that this particular broken clock could say something close to what we probably all want.

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      “Shoot oneself in the foot” is a really charitable description of “inviting all the worst Nazis back on to social media and removing fact checking.”

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    Anyone could be a CEO if this douche nozzle can. And for like 6-7 different corporations to by the way.

    What do you say you do here elon?

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      Disagree. You have to be completely devoid of morals and ethics to be a CEO. Empathy too. Most of us have those things on at least some level.

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        Only to be CEO of a massive capitalist company.

        I’ve heard a few tales of some CEO’s (of very small companies) here in the Nordics actually being generous to their employees. Like it’s most definitely a rarity, but I believe it is possible.

        Like a CEO who values profits but values employees and paying their fair share more and isn’t blinded by greed and addicted to money. A socialist, literally. A market socialist, but a socialist nonetheless.

        Everyone could have their basic needs met, and we could still have rich people. Just not filthy rich, not “rich-to-the-point-no-one-else-has-anything” rich.

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    “If you’re trying to reach senior decision makers, if you want to reach the most influential people in the world,” Musk told Read, “the X platform is by far the best.”

    Does someone want to break it to him that he’s one of about 4 executives of a fortune 500 who spends any time on Twitter? The rest have PR people who might make a couple posts a month for them, but they sure as shit aren’t wasting any time on it arguing with idiots and bots. They’re busy flying around on private jets or playing golf when they aren’t spending their 30 minutes a month working.

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    I can’t find the exact quote right now, but I saw in another article he said something like, “If they don’t pay for advertisements, X will be gone. How sad!”

    It seems Musk thinks he’s tending another Mona Lisa or some other world cultural artifact that society would hate to lose. Not some website that’s fairly easily recreated by, say, a bunch of hobbyists.

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    Can’t remember the last time I was on Twitter. Turns out I don’t need it. Turns out I’m just a little happier without it.

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      I was trying to find active users since he took over. But the only numbers I can find are numbers provided by Musk, who is a well known liar.

      I know Lemmy and Mastodon are niche communities, and that people put up with a lot of garbage from Big Tech, but I have to believe that a lot of users have left Twitter, or least that usage is down. I also assume bots are way up, because Musk wants his numbers to be up regardless of the source (save for people with an opposing opinion).

      Hopefully Musk’s shitty little empire crumbles…soon.

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    Elon, I got some butterscotch in my pockets. They are nice and warm too…Why don’t you reach in there and grab ya a couple?

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    "I do shoot myself in the foot from time to time, but at least you know it is genuine, not from the PR department”

    Yeah we know. He’s genuinely a white supremacist, misogynist, queerphobe piece of shit. A PR department doesn’t give a fuck about any of that, but at least they’d be savvy enough to pretend like they give a damn in order to make money.

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      misogynist, queerphobe? I never heard him say things like that. Where have you?

      Edit: getting downvoted for asking questions… Some people man

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        Yes, you’re getting downvoted for asking a stupid question. Do you think people announce “I am a queerphobe and a misogynst”? Read between the fucking lines!

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        I think you’re getting downvoted because everyone assumes that you’re being a pedant, not because you asked a question.

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        He made “cis” a slur on Twitter because it upsets him that his ex who left him is trans, and he hates trans people. He’s had plenty of tweets and posts complaining about pronouns, trans people in general, and so on.

        I can’t speak to the misogyny (but I’m sure it’s there), but instead if arguing with people about you “jUsT aSkInG a QuEsTiOn” you could just Google “Elon Musk queerphobic tweets” and Google will supply plenty.

        I did, and the first two results were articles from former Twitter/X employees claiming there were homophobic and anti-semitic attacks on the platform after Musk took over. So yeah… Not sure what you want anyone here to do for you that you can’t do yourself via a Google search, you clearly know how to type, and the phrase I suggested is less characters than all your comments combined.

        Edit: And then after you did some googling and found the answers, you could edit your comment to say, “Wow, hey guys, I was wrong, he really is misogynistic queerphobic piece of shit,” and be done with it, instead of doubling down like a troll.

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    aw, he may be a genocide loving nazi, but at least its from the heart. won’t someone give him some money?

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          Google “any name Nazi” and you’ll get results. The question was what are you referring to.

          Also, I can’t believe this community would down vote anyone for asking for sources, that’s disgusting. I’m disappointed Lemmy.

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              It’s hard to feel disappointed about something you don’t really care about. That is to say, the reason I feel disappointed is because I like this community and I want it to be a place for civil discourse. Conversely, I’ve given up on Reddit, so nothing that happens there can really disappoint me any more, I no longer care about it.

              I’m not going to make a fuss about something that doesn’t impact me, but I will make a fuss about something I believe in, like Lemmy.

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              The article is just a collection of hyperlinks. Useless article and I will not look through all of them, and I couldn’t even know they were talking about something from the article anyway

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                So you were downvoted for not bothering to read or even skim the article to do a minimum amount of looking on your own to see what they were talking about.

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            Exactly. Having sources is the minimal starting point to make an opinion. That’s not because this community is supposed safe that I could trust any user information