Johnson claimed that Trump violently raped her when she was 13 at a 1994 orgy hosted by Jeffrey Epstein — the billionaire who was convicted in 2008 of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution and has been accused of having sex with more than 30 underage girls.
Johnson said Trump had sexual contact with her at four of those parties, including tying her to a bed and violently raping her in a “savage sexual attack.” The lawsuit said Johnson “loudly pleaded” with Trump to stop, but that he responded by “violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted.”
Trump is a pedo with several decades of documented creepy behavior.
There. “Explained.”
Yet, here we are, with the potential of him to be the next president of the country (again). :/
I think you mean the next king of your failed democracy.
This.
100%Genuine curiosity, I thought we collectively agreed not to bring “This”, and other underwhelmimg comments, to Lemmy. Why does this “This” have so many upvotes? Why not just upvote the OP of the thread? Is it a demographic thing? Is Lemmy gaining enough popularity that the Upvoters are unaware of the history of Lemmy’s complaints against Reddit that led to (in our view as) its downfall? Or does “This” and it’s related Upvoters mean Lemmy bots and Lemmy farms are already rampant?
Edit: Or, looking at the post history, maybe this was bait for me and I gobbled it up. If DMs are a thing here and anyone has recommendations for positive and enriching communities, I’m keen to explore and find fulfilling engagement! Getting a bit disenchanted by Lemmy/the internet in general. Are niche hobby communities the only wholesome, silly spaces left on the internet? The irony is not lost on me that my post is negative in itself. Just trying to find a place with good people to feel a bit of belonging.
This.
and the first king in the idiomonarchy.
democracy
Never was one. Kinda exactly what led us here.
I’m not from the US but even that kinda offended me. To say that there has never been democracy in the US, clearly judged by your very narrow view of history is incredibly ignorant.
How old are you?
If you really want to get into it, there was a great paper showing that by definition we’re much closer to an oligarchy, than a democracy or republic.
The US has always been a representative republic. For much of that time, it was representative of only a fraction of a fraction of the whole population.
how old are you?
"Uh… uh… eyes dart to the side 21 gulps.
That’s an ignorant, illiterate and pedantic puerile answer.
That whole “republic” bullshit is…bullshit.
The USA, as of today, is a FAILED democracy.
What point in history would you pin as American government being representative of it’s population. It was failed from the start.
That’s an ignorant, illiterate and pedantic puerile answer.
Baby’s first thesaurus?
That whole “republic” bullshit is…bullshit.
The USA, as of today, is a FAILED democracy.
An argument I’m sure you’ll support in your next replies.
Saying that the US isn’t a democracy because it’s a representative republic is like saying a shape isn’t a rectangle because it’s a square.
We aren’t a direct democracy. But in a representative republic power still stems from the people voting (ostensibly). Demoi (δῆμοι) meaning “peoples” and kratos (κράτος) meaning “power,” we get “democracy.” Power from the people.
And how are those representatives chosen, perhaps in some elections like in, I dunno, a representative democracy
Pedantry got you here.
He should probably withdraw
He should be thrown in prison and not even given the freedom to withdraw. He should be forcefully taken out, legally but violently.
I told a trump cultist about the creepy things he said about his daughter. Guy said it’s ok, he made a mistake and God had forgiven him.
Think of the children, though. Those books are really dangerous.
Why isn’t this all over prime time news, including fox, so the christian voters can see it.
More importantly why aren’t the democrats and liberal establishment forcing this into the public eye. They could be using this to their advantage. Why aren’t we hearing about it as loudly as we should be. I’m not seeing it any where mainstream.
Fuck, biden should give a press announcement only for this.
There is a whole group of religious folks that are certain he is the antichrist and want to bring him to power so he can bring about the end of days, revelations, the rapture (where they will be saved), then after hell on earth, the 1000 years of peace…so…they are totally cool with his evil. It’s insane when you think about it from the position of nothing in religion being real.
I dont doubt it one bit. These people belong in mental institutions. Yet they’re allowed (encouraged?) to vote, as well as raise (indoctrinate) children into their ridiculous way of thinking.
I was one of those children. It’s a crazy life, and there are tons of people who live it and believe it.
Why are the dumb people driving the car?
I think evangelicals see this sort of thing as a positive.
They think they might get a chance to do it too
The body has ways to shut down violent rape.
not that fucking guy
The article describes why the story feels to them so strange and suspicious. For example
It was the end of an incredibly strange case that featured an anonymous plaintiff who had refused almost all requests for interviews, two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters — with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama — who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.
Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.
Since a tape of Trump bragging about sexual assault came out in early October, a dozen named women have come forward with credible, similar-sounding allegations of Trump forcibly kissing or groping them in exactly the way he described on that tape. Johnson’s case was an outlier, with far more salacious allegations from a source that seems far less credible.
And it goes much further. I guess not many wanted to go hard on this story with it seeming a bit sketchy. Like they said in the end
It’s true that the allegation is explosive, andcould make voters see Trump’s many disturbing comments about young girls over the years in a new light. But it’s also very dubious and uncertain, and there’s no real need to promote a case like that when a dozen women have come forward with much more credible stories, using their own names and making themselves available to reporters for scrutiny.
It should be revealing with a story like this just how controlled the media has actually become. The vast majority of major media outlets have been slowly bought out and/or heavily funded by right-wing groups. The story should be everywhere, but you’ll probably only see it in niche news sites and maybe MSNBC. This is also why all we really see are negative stories about Biden regardless of what Trump does or says.
Christians have a thing about fucking kids, remember?
Well, as others said, it’s probably because it’s a 2016 article about a story that never got anywhere.
Maybe it was true, maybe it wasn’t, who knows. But it’s definitely not the best thing to give press announcements about, especially considering all the horrible stuff Trump has verifiably done.
I don’t think they’ve read the article, which is a shame because it’s an interesting one. But it does make that point and comments about Clinto campaign
But the Clinton campaign hasn’t touched Johnson’s allegation, and with good reason. It’s true that the allegation is explosive, andcould make voters see Trump’s many disturbing comments about young girls over the years in a new light. But it’s also very dubious and uncertain, and there’s no real need to promote a case like that when a dozen women have come forward with much more credible stories, using their own names and making themselves available to reporters for scrutiny.
Jimmy carter sold his peanut farm to be president. Dan Quayle spelled potato wrong and lost the presidency.
But rape allegations are fine, because it might not be true. He’s such a trustworthy guy after all.
That’s not the point I’m making. I’m saying between inciting an insurrection, spending campaign funds for silencing pornstars, telling people to inject disinfectant in their veins, and sexual assault sentences… I’d say one shady rape allegation that never went anywhere is definitely not the main reason why he shouldn’t be president.
He Raped that LITTLE GIRL as an OFFICIAL Act of the Presidency!
And he’d do it again too.
So this wasn’t an official act? I guess it depends upon which SC justice you ask.
Ask Trump is all.
He might not have been the president in 1994, but I don’t have a source to back that up
Republicans: “That man is just LIKE US! He embodies every value that we hold dear! We should totally nominate him to lead our party.”
It is amazing how there is no line that Trump/GOP are willing to cross for this man. I’ve never seen a guy make so many people admit they have no moral backbone at all. Everything they hate and say other groups are he is.
Criminal ✅
Con-Man ✅
Rapist ✅
Racist (They enjoy this.) ✅
Hostile insurrection. ✅
Criminal ✅Illegal Democrat Witch HuntCon-Man ✅Media LiesRapist ✅Fake NewsRacist (They enjoy this.) ✅Democrats are the real DEI racists.Hostile insurrection. ✅Peaceful protest.Unfortunately for them this is what that list is.
We live in 2 or more realities existing simultaneously due to the real scum of the earth: propagandists.
I don’t get why people are down voting you. This is exactly it. They have an infinite layer of lies on lies to spin all of this stuff.
Yeah man, Trumpists and Propagandists, two mutually exclusive groups…
Most Trumpists have been duped by propagandists. It’s more comforting to them to believe the fake news talking points than to admit “their guy” is actually a vile waste of skin.
I think its also that “free speech” has become “you can lie to anyone for any reason and recieve almost no consequences” and in the age where media can be pushed and spun faster than it can be read there’s just no way our existing system can handle it.
This is why there’s a clear parallel to the 1940s where broadcast mediums pretty much did the same thing.
Now everyone has a megaphone and you get extra money if it snags eyeballs.
Whoops I missed the last line! My bad.
Try asking a Democrat to name one thing that Biden could do that would make them not vote for him.
To be fair, though, I don’t think that Biden would’ve gotten the nomination if he were as scummy as Trump.
538 upvotes on an article from 2016. This rape allegation was known in 2016:
A 2016 lawsuit accused Trump, then a candidate for president, of raping a minor, but no evidence was put forth before the case was dropped.
but no evidence was put forth before the case was dropped.
The case was dropped because the victim received death threats from Trump’s fanclub.
The whole case was also really suspicious, like the article said. People, including the only reporter who got to interview the woman (over a phone call) wasn’t even sure if the person actually ever existed. Seeing that this is a fairly old article, I wonder if we got any new info on this.
Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe. When Trump denied the allegations and accused her of defrauding him, he got sued again for defamation.
Trump raped a 13 year old girl.
Aren’t those different cases?
I’m not sure what case they mean but this particular Jane Doe doesn’t seem to have won against Trump on rape allegations. First case was dismissed and second was dropped after there were death threats. Seems like there’s four Jane Doe lawsuits against Trump, two about the rape, but two of them have nothing to do with that. Pretty confusing.
No. But Trump does have like 30 other allegations, so I could see why you were confused.
Sure, the guy who says his friend likes girls on the younger side and that they are okay with it deserves the benefit of the doubt. Excuse me while I throw up.
This particular case is, technically, an accusation, though. Even if we’re all just about certain that it’s true.
Sure, I heard he totally respects women’s rights. He would be never think of purposely walking in on a young girl changing… Ohh wait
Did you even read what I said? I agree with you there. But technically, and I’m only bringing this up because
youthe original commenter* originally did, it is an accusation.*Edit: I thought you were the same person, but my point still stands.
Suuuure, I am just calling bullshit on it. You are okay, even if your playing devils advocate to a rapist.
Jesus fucking Christ with you people.
Justified sarcasm, but not relevant to this particular thread about technical legal language.
The situation is so perverse but we are to hold a logical detached conversation about a child rapist. Excuse me while I go throw up again.
Again. Not arguing about the red team rapist.
Holy crap, I hope that’s not what you think I was saying.
It is hard to tell when you are dealing with a serial rapist.
Technically not an accusation, Trump lost the lawsuit to Jane Doe.
I’m not sure if there’s some other Jane Doe lawsuit he lost but he didn’t lose (either time) the rape accusation talked in the article. First was dismissed and second was dropped (likely because death threats).
A lawsuit filed in California in April 2016 accused Trump and Jeffrey Epstein of forcibly raping three 12 and 13-year-old girls at underage sex parties at Epstein’s Manhattan residence in 1994.[39] The case was dismissed the following month. A second version of the lawsuit was filed in New York in June by a Jane Doe claiming to have been raped by the pair at four 1994 parties when she was 13 years old.[40] It was withdrawn in October as the plaintiff said she had received death threats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations#Jane_Doe_(1994)
But her emails. But his stutter.
I am afraid to think that soon we will find ourselves discussing whether or not someone who has raped a girl can run for presidency
But, but Biden!!!
Biden sniffs hair and loves his son yuck!
/s
Both sides!!1! /s
Not here to start a fight. I get the annoyance at the whataboutism, but the list of allegations against Biden is much longer.
What list? Also quite literally Trump has been tried and was considered guilty of grapes. Literally admits to walking around nude children and touching women because he is a star
Not here to defend Trump. Nor imply he can be defended.
What list?
Not here to start a fight. Just saying that Biden haters have more on their list than your two items.
Them being more willing to make up a firehouse of random bullshit means nothing.
It does if you want piercing satire.
Faking whataboutism is very different to pretending your guy is whiter than white.
Is this the one where the girl and her mother were constantly threatened so they refused to testify and moved away?
The (second) case against Trump was dropped after Jane Doe got death threats. Not sure if that’s what you mean. The article does mention " two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to". Was that a girl and her mother?
I don’t excuse the media for not talking about this, but I also don’t think it would matter if they put it on a 24 hour news cycle and shouted it from the rooftops. Or if they used the emergency broadcast system to send the story directly to every phone owning American. The cult of trump just doesn’t care. My (ugg) Facebook feed is full of people saying that felony’s don’t matter when it cost them some extra cash to buy groceries. I see people almost daily wearing clothing proclaiming they are voting for the felon. They just do not care about what ever he has done.
You’re right and it’s terrifying. I don’t see any way to fix it besides maybe forming a new non-fascist country
The media talked about it plenty. This story is 4 years old. How often do the expect the media to report on unfounded allegations by someone who dropped the case?
And no MAGAtard worth their trash has ever linked their God-Emperor to that pervert Epstein. 😡🤬
MAGAtard? They prefer MAGAt or MAGAholic
Americans influenced everything in my life.
I hope they collaborate onto better goals.
Buckle up.
