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It’s like Gmail except it has a proper dark mode, an actually functional search feature, a functional and user-friendly mail filtering system, you can actually block senders, “All Mail” actually shows you all mail, and also Google isn’t reading all your emails…
Been using their paid email, drive and vpn for the last couple of years and their service has been flawless in my experience. Great apps and never had an outage or issues once.
Free versions are available but the paid version is well worth it.
I’ve been with them for a couple of years too and I use all their services (mail, calendar, drive, VPN, pass and simplelogin) but calling it flawless is a bit of an overstatement.
Their outside communication is nonexistent at best, development speed is unbearably slow and Linux support, the most privacy countious user-base?, is lacking a lot.
Hopefully in the next couple years they sinally manage to release contact sync and a Linux client for Drive.
Their outside communication is nonexistent at best
Eh, they’re decently active on Reddit, I guess. They send the occasional newsletter regarding new features if you don’t unsubscribe (and they’re pretty good at not spamming with those, imo).
development speed is unbearably slow
I see people say this all the time, and while feature updates are kind of slow, I’m also not lacking anything, personally. I would appreciate it if they smoothed-out SimpleLogin’s extension, though. That thing is weirdly clunky to use.
Agree on the Linux bit, though. I’m surprised they haven’t put more work into that.
Overall, I’ve been a happy customer for a few years, personally.
Apparently, doing a sync with it just on my documents and photos, it ended up filling up the Proton Drive and giving hundreds of errors on one of my Windows 10 computers.
I recently started using Tresorit, E2E encrypted cloud storage, owned by the swiss post, only downside I can find is price. I haven’t used it long enough to really be able to recommend, but there aren’t a ton of options out there.
There’s an incredible story behind it. But, the short form is that Proton is more expensive because they’re not harvesting your private information. In a few months the law will prevent them from doing for as long as the core fiscal law and Proton exist (at least decades).
If price is main concern, you still have options, but you’ll need to be a lot more specific about what you need. For example:
direct Drive replacements - OneDrive and Amazon Drive
just file storage - DropBox, and MEGA
backups - NordLocker, Backblaze
hosted and self-hosted cloud platforms - OwnCloud and NextCloud, use Backblaze B2 for storage
I’m doing the last one. I have NextCloud installed on my custom NAS (just openSUSE Leap with some drives) and am working on configuring B2 as a backup service. It’s more expensive than Drive, but it’s also more versatile (streams movies to TV, use as Linux package cache for faster upgrades, etc).
Each of these are similar in price to Google Drive, but with a different feature set. Some are cheaper.
Sorry for not being more specific about what I need, I will explain it here.
With Google Drive, it gets assigned to a drive letter on my computer which is H: here and I’m not sure if any other Drive alternatives do that or not.
Right now, I currently pay $3 USD a month for 300 GBs of Google Drive space and they appear to go up with 5TBs for $25 USD a month and $10TBs for $50 USD a month.
I’m not interested in One Drive as that is Microsoft’s Shit.
Here are options for to mount Backblaze B2 as a drive. It’s $6/TB/month, and I think they allow <1TB, so for 300GB you’d pay ~$2/month. So I think they’re pretty competitive, but I’m not familiar with Google Drive’s terms. They’re certainly in the same ballpark, if not cheaper, but it depends on your egress and Google Drive’s policies around that (how much you download from their service).
Well, for one thing, I would want to find out if there is a way to mount a remote drive service to a drive letter on a Windows machine like Google Drive so that I can have it as a backup option that would keep my stuff privacy, and not scraped by some AI LLM.
Getting worse is putting it lightly.
Get the fuck off Google services if you can. Highly recommend Proton mail and drive as a replacement.
…tell me more of these proton mail services of which you speak!
It’s like Gmail except it has a proper dark mode, an actually functional search feature, a functional and user-friendly mail filtering system, you can actually block senders, “All Mail” actually shows you all mail, and also Google isn’t reading all your emails…
Been using their paid email, drive and vpn for the last couple of years and their service has been flawless in my experience. Great apps and never had an outage or issues once.
Free versions are available but the paid version is well worth it.
I’ve been with them for a couple of years too and I use all their services (mail, calendar, drive, VPN, pass and simplelogin) but calling it flawless is a bit of an overstatement.
Their outside communication is nonexistent at best, development speed is unbearably slow and Linux support, the most privacy countious user-base?, is lacking a lot.
Hopefully in the next couple years they sinally manage to release contact sync and a Linux client for Drive.
Eh, they’re decently active on Reddit, I guess. They send the occasional newsletter regarding new features if you don’t unsubscribe (and they’re pretty good at not spamming with those, imo).
I see people say this all the time, and while feature updates are kind of slow, I’m also not lacking anything, personally. I would appreciate it if they smoothed-out SimpleLogin’s extension, though. That thing is weirdly clunky to use.
Agree on the Linux bit, though. I’m surprised they haven’t put more work into that.
Overall, I’ve been a happy customer for a few years, personally.
I would need to see some alternates for Google Drive in that case.
Proton drive is fantastic.
I just signed up for that just to check it out and compare it, and it looks like upgrading the storage on it is more expensive than Google Drive.
Yeah but that’s expected. It’s difficult to compete as a smaller company compared to what Google can offer.
It’s the price of privacy and to be outside of the google ecosystem.
Apparently, doing a sync with it just on my documents and photos, it ended up filling up the Proton Drive and giving hundreds of errors on one of my Windows 10 computers.
I recently started using Tresorit, E2E encrypted cloud storage, owned by the swiss post, only downside I can find is price. I haven’t used it long enough to really be able to recommend, but there aren’t a ton of options out there.
Were those errors that the drive was full?
Some of those errors were about the drive being full.
There’s an incredible story behind it. But, the short form is that Proton is more expensive because they’re not harvesting your private information. In a few months the law will prevent them from doing for as long as the core fiscal law and Proton exist (at least decades).
If price is main concern, you still have options, but you’ll need to be a lot more specific about what you need. For example:
I’m doing the last one. I have NextCloud installed on my custom NAS (just openSUSE Leap with some drives) and am working on configuring B2 as a backup service. It’s more expensive than Drive, but it’s also more versatile (streams movies to TV, use as Linux package cache for faster upgrades, etc).
Each of these are similar in price to Google Drive, but with a different feature set. Some are cheaper.
Sorry for not being more specific about what I need, I will explain it here.
With Google Drive, it gets assigned to a drive letter on my computer which is H: here and I’m not sure if any other Drive alternatives do that or not.
Right now, I currently pay $3 USD a month for 300 GBs of Google Drive space and they appear to go up with 5TBs for $25 USD a month and $10TBs for $50 USD a month.
I’m not interested in One Drive as that is Microsoft’s Shit.
Here are options for to mount Backblaze B2 as a drive. It’s $6/TB/month, and I think they allow <1TB, so for 300GB you’d pay ~$2/month. So I think they’re pretty competitive, but I’m not familiar with Google Drive’s terms. They’re certainly in the same ballpark, if not cheaper, but it depends on your egress and Google Drive’s policies around that (how much you download from their service).
Well, for one thing, I would want to find out if there is a way to mount a remote drive service to a drive letter on a Windows machine like Google Drive so that I can have it as a backup option that would keep my stuff privacy, and not scraped by some AI LLM.
And that’s exactly what that page discusses. It links three options you can try:
The first two are paid, the last is FOSS, and it claims each can mount Backblaze B2 as a Windows drive. I haven’t tried any of them, so YMMV.
Just signed up after they announced the non-profit and migrated all my mail. So far so good.
I wouldn’t go from Google to another for-profit though. I know how it ends.
But what if Alphabet buys Proton!?
They went non-profit recently to specifically prevent this from happening.
https://proton.me/blog/proton-non-profit-foundation
duckduckgo and yandex.
restricting your search to r*ddit to filter out blogspam.