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    Getting worse is putting it lightly.

    Get the fuck off Google services if you can. Highly recommend Proton mail and drive as a replacement.

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        It’s like Gmail except it has a proper dark mode, an actually functional search feature, a functional and user-friendly mail filtering system, you can actually block senders, “All Mail” actually shows you all mail, and also Google isn’t reading all your emails…

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        Been using their paid email, drive and vpn for the last couple of years and their service has been flawless in my experience. Great apps and never had an outage or issues once.

        Free versions are available but the paid version is well worth it.

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          I’ve been with them for a couple of years too and I use all their services (mail, calendar, drive, VPN, pass and simplelogin) but calling it flawless is a bit of an overstatement.

          Their outside communication is nonexistent at best, development speed is unbearably slow and Linux support, the most privacy countious user-base?, is lacking a lot.

          Hopefully in the next couple years they sinally manage to release contact sync and a Linux client for Drive.

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            Their outside communication is nonexistent at best

            Eh, they’re decently active on Reddit, I guess. They send the occasional newsletter regarding new features if you don’t unsubscribe (and they’re pretty good at not spamming with those, imo).

            development speed is unbearably slow

            I see people say this all the time, and while feature updates are kind of slow, I’m also not lacking anything, personally. I would appreciate it if they smoothed-out SimpleLogin’s extension, though. That thing is weirdly clunky to use.

            Agree on the Linux bit, though. I’m surprised they haven’t put more work into that.

            Overall, I’ve been a happy customer for a few years, personally.

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          I just signed up for that just to check it out and compare it, and it looks like upgrading the storage on it is more expensive than Google Drive.

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            Yeah but that’s expected. It’s difficult to compete as a smaller company compared to what Google can offer.

            It’s the price of privacy and to be outside of the google ecosystem.

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              Apparently, doing a sync with it just on my documents and photos, it ended up filling up the Proton Drive and giving hundreds of errors on one of my Windows 10 computers.

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                I recently started using Tresorit, E2E encrypted cloud storage, owned by the swiss post, only downside I can find is price. I haven’t used it long enough to really be able to recommend, but there aren’t a ton of options out there.

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            There’s an incredible story behind it. But, the short form is that Proton is more expensive because they’re not harvesting your private information. In a few months the law will prevent them from doing for as long as the core fiscal law and Proton exist (at least decades).

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            If price is main concern, you still have options, but you’ll need to be a lot more specific about what you need. For example:

            • direct Drive replacements - OneDrive and Amazon Drive
            • just file storage - DropBox, and MEGA
            • backups - NordLocker, Backblaze
            • hosted and self-hosted cloud platforms - OwnCloud and NextCloud, use Backblaze B2 for storage

            I’m doing the last one. I have NextCloud installed on my custom NAS (just openSUSE Leap with some drives) and am working on configuring B2 as a backup service. It’s more expensive than Drive, but it’s also more versatile (streams movies to TV, use as Linux package cache for faster upgrades, etc).

            Each of these are similar in price to Google Drive, but with a different feature set. Some are cheaper.

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              Sorry for not being more specific about what I need, I will explain it here.

              With Google Drive, it gets assigned to a drive letter on my computer which is H: here and I’m not sure if any other Drive alternatives do that or not.

              Right now, I currently pay $3 USD a month for 300 GBs of Google Drive space and they appear to go up with 5TBs for $25 USD a month and $10TBs for $50 USD a month.

              I’m not interested in One Drive as that is Microsoft’s Shit.

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                Here are options for to mount Backblaze B2 as a drive. It’s $6/TB/month, and I think they allow <1TB, so for 300GB you’d pay ~$2/month. So I think they’re pretty competitive, but I’m not familiar with Google Drive’s terms. They’re certainly in the same ballpark, if not cheaper, but it depends on your egress and Google Drive’s policies around that (how much you download from their service).

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                  Well, for one thing, I would want to find out if there is a way to mount a remote drive service to a drive letter on a Windows machine like Google Drive so that I can have it as a backup option that would keep my stuff privacy, and not scraped by some AI LLM.

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      Just signed up after they announced the non-profit and migrated all my mail. So far so good.

      I wouldn’t go from Google to another for-profit though. I know how it ends.

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      duckduckgo and yandex.

      restricting your search to r*ddit to filter out blogspam.

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    It’s not even that their results suck, per se, but they straight up ignore most of my search query and focus on one or two words only. Obviously that makes your search results suck.

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      It is just a matter of incentives.

      Remember Google is paid by advertising dollars. So the incentives are to feed you the maximum amount of ads with the minimum amount of content so that you don’t leave for something else.

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    Is GN going to put Google on a Performance Improvement Plan like they did with Asus?

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    You either die a hero or live and watch yourself turn into a villian.

    Tom’s hardware, woot, and most recently donut media just to name a few. All were once the place to go, they all were bought out by bigger interest and eventually became the villian.

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        My company’s goal seems to be to get themselves more dependent on AWS. They’re always talking about which things we can replace with AWS offerings.

        I’m the exact opposite. I’m always looking for how to make the things I use more replaceable. That way if a company goes bad, I only need to replace a small part of my stuff.

        If AWS goes bad, I’d feel really bad for out devOPs team…

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      I’m slowly moving away to open source, self-hosted applications where possible. Changed search to a combination of Gibiru and Yep. Email to a mailcow server I host on a vps, and I’m moving photos to an Immich server I’m setting up. Home Automation is next, I have a Raspberry Pi 5 to act as the Home Assistant server. And a few other projects in the works to split from Google as much as I can and mostly it is all better.

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      Yahoo is still around in some form or another.

      Alphabet has enough money to persist well after they lose relevance.

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      I mean IBM is still traded but it’s a shadow if it’s former self

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      ICQ shut down yesterday and it was relatively small to begin with so I‘m afraid Google will be around for decades to come and possibly outlive most or even all of us.

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    It’s weird that they don’t really address the biggest reason Googles algorithm is worse now. The rampant exploitation of SEO.

    Bad actors abuse the system in an attempt to be the first result, regardless of relevancy. It’s harder for Google to sift the chaff out than it used to be, because they’re flooded with content claiming to be related to the search keys.

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    "Google is getting worse. Now watch me talk about the situation on a youtube video. Youtube is a property owned by google. "